Jen Greenfield, Actor, Writer, Tryer Of All Things

Jen 0:00

Hugh Grant's done quite well being typecast.

Robb 0:10

Welcome to another episode of Chewing the Fat. I'm your host, Big Robb. Thank you so much for tuning in, downloading the podcast. I certainly do appreciate it. And all the folks that have bought me a coffee at ChewingTheFatBR.com. Thank you so much for your financial support of this podcast where we help to tell those beautiful, messy human stories. Please welcome my guest this week coming all the way from Arizona. It's Jen Grenfield. Jen. That's a Grinfield. I meant Greenfield. Green. Green.

Jen 0:43

It's a Grunfeld. Make it German.

Robb 0:45

Like the pastures that speckle the Phoenix landscape, right? The green fields.

Jen 0:55

They're called golf courses here.

Robb 0:58

That's absolutely true. Jen is a friend of mine from the voice acting community. We've met in some workshops and this, that, and the other as you as you bump into people and probably at VO Atlanta and you know different places like that. And uh I reached out and was like, hey, you want to do this thing? She was she was like all over it. And so I appreciate you so much, Jen. You are in the uh in the Phoenix area right now. Is that uh is that home to you? I mean, obviously it's home, which is where you're living, but I mean born and raised.

Jen 1:32

Yeah, I love I love how you uh you say that. I always say when people ask where I'm from, so I'm mil I'm Army brat and air retired, now retired Air Force wife. So when people say, Where, you know, where are you from? You're like, where was I born? Where do I live now, or where have I lived the longest? It's it's how how do you describe home? Um but no, actually, um I think this is my 14th move, yeah, in my life. So between started in Fort Benning, Georgia, um, ran the gamut of the U.S. on army bases in in Germany, came back to the States, uh, met a charming officer in the Air Force, and then Zhang Zoom, we went to Asia, we went to Europe, came back to the United States. So anyway, yes, um during the pandemic, so needless to say, about every two to three years, I start getting the shakes, the moving shakes. Like, okay, we've been here. So when he retired, um, we bounced around a little in the northeast and then found ourselves in San Antonio, Texas, uh, which we enjoyed. Um, the kids were a like late elementary, starting middle school, and then the pandemic happened. And one of the things we'll you'll find out about me is I renovate homes. I've been a contractor in a past life. Well, still kind of do it, but we had totally renovated our house and we kind of did the you want to move. And so we my husband and I were like, I don't know. So we got out the map, said, Where have we been? Where do we not want to be? And I was had gotten into voiceover at that point, had a past in acting, uh mostly musical theater, so stage acting, and of course, all that just stopped.

Robb 3:12

Yeah.

Jen 3:12

But I was like, you know, I I can't even tell you why. We just kind of did like a loop-de-loop, and then our finger landed on Scottsdale.

Robb 3:20

Okay.

Jen 3:20

And so, you know how so we we drove out here because you couldn't fly. Um, and so we drove out here, checked it out. We said, if we're gonna move with the kids in middle school, we either have to move so they could start high school someplace, or we need to just stay. Anyway, we came out, asked the kids, what do you think? They were like, Yeah, let's move. So we did. Wow. And Scatsdale's been surprisingly um for this area, it's actually kind of central to get to Vegas, to get to LA, to get to Denver. Like I'm actually kind of on the we're in a nice little pocket to get to creative endeavors. So for now, it's home. Uh the kids each have two years left of high school. So we'll see after that. You'll have to follow along for the adventure to see where we might go next.

Robb 4:09

I love that. I love that. So um for your formative years, where where were you? Where were you in, you know, that kind of uh uh you know, middle school, high school time of life? Where were you? Was that uh still overseas?

Jen 4:25

So I was in so we lived in Germany for the first part of elementary school, then we were in Manhattan, Kansas for the second part of elementary school and um like first year of middle school. Then we moved to Edmund, Oklahoma.

Robb 4:44

Wow.

Jen 4:44

So yes, so I I graduated high school and college from Oklahoma. So that's the that's where I lived the longest. And then my my parents and my brother still reside there. So Okay.

Robb 4:55

Okay.

Jen 4:55

There you go.

Robb 4:56

Very cool. Very cool. So I like said you we met, you're in you're in uh voiceover, you I know you do on-camera stuff. You're also a writer, and we'll talk about your holiday rom-com coming up. But like was that always kind of a passion? Because you said you started as a contractor. Were you a were you a what they would call a tomboy? You swing like swinging hammers and building things or what?

Jen 5:19

Uh yes. Yes to everything. Um I joke, I joke that if you, you know, looked at my LinkedIn resume, you'd be like, good lord, ADHD and squirrels have attacked this resume. Like good good luck tracking. I mean, I, you know, I joke that I walked out of the womb singing Broadway show tunes. All I wanted to be as a kid was a Broadway actor. I uh got my first role in an opera at age seven. And once I got on stage, I mean, I was um street urchin number one. Um I'll have you know, in the the opera of Carmen. Very pivotal role, very important to um. Yes, Street Urchent One.

Robb 6:01

I mean, more like Street Urchin 2. I mean, come on, that guy.

Jen 6:05

Nope, nope. I was, yeah. But no, what was really humorous about it is I've always had I shocking, always been a strong personality, I've always had an opinion, I have always been a creative. And interestingly enough, I can distinctly remember the and my parents, they'll tell they don't have a lick of artistic creative. My brother is a prodigy musician. He is phenomenal. But my parents are like, we don't know. You came out and you were just this thing over here, just you were the unicorn. Yeah, you were the unicorn. Uh, but I remember the choreographer telling my mother, like, wow, Eva, you know, your daughter gave us some um, you know, choreography um tips and stuff for the for all the street. Or I was like, you know, already taking over, which I actually did later become a choreographer. Um, but no, once I got that taste of stage, uh being on stage and being in front of the audience, like I couldn't stop. Um I have um, I don't know if you know Elise Meyer, but she has this adorable video. She goes, the I have the how hard can it be gene. And I absolutely have that. And so what does that mean? Like, if I get a whiff of something, I'm like, let's do it, let's do it. I don't like to use the word fearless because I it I don't know that but but I don't have another word for it, but that's kind of how I am. I am a trier of everything. I wanna, I wanna try everything, I wanna be everything, I want to go everywhere. So, so I start, you know, musical theater, that was really important to me. But then you learn, oh, I need to learn, I need to know how to dance. I need to know how to, I was a gymnast, I was a dancer. Then I, you know, and then there comes a point in my life when I'm a dance instructor, I'm a fitness instructor. I started choreographing musicals and show choirs for high schools all around Oklahoma. Then you get married. Now I'm doing the mom thing. Well, as I said, when you're moving every two years, nobody hires you. Like military spouses who are listening, they're like, mm-hmm, we know, because they know you're they know by the time they train you you're gonna move. Or if you have a spouse who's deployed and you've got kids, you can't come into work. You know, like it just so every time we would stop at a new location, move, um I'd create a job for myself. I'd create a business. I have had a sewing business. Again, I've been a fitness instructor on and all the army dudes would come in at lunch and I'd be the one, you know, coaching their class and um anything like just creative. Um so so the contracting part, when we finally kind of settled, when my husband finally retired, we found ourselves in Connecticut. So after I what I don't know how old I was, whatever, however old I was 40 years old or something. We we bought our first house because you only can rent or you live on base housing um when you're moving all the time. And so so we got in there and it was an adorable 1960s colonial. And I looked around and I'm like, we change everything. And I was like, yeah, I I know what I'm doing. And this was, I know YouTube was a thing, but I kind of didn't know YouTube was a thing, you know, like really under understand it and how to kind of utilize it. So I did a lot of trial and error, but yeah, I started renovating the house, and wherever I would get stuck, I had this um, I was given this contractor, his name was Bill, and we hired him like for plumbing and electrical, but then he was also teach me. Like he was also like, okay, let me show you what we're doing, you know. So I'm paying him, but he's also teaching me. Fast forward, we moved to San Antonio, I renovate another house. And then my neighbor um happened to be a designer, and she had some really, really high-end clients. And she's like, Can you build a laundry room? She's got a I got a client who needs it. I'm like, Yeah, I can build a laundry room. So I get hired, I go build a laundry room. And then she's like, Hey, I've got this other project. And I'm like, you know what? So now I'm in like GC mode. So I'm like, you know what? I gotta, I got an electrician. I got so all that to say, I have always had this entrepreneurial spirit, this creativity. And each time we land someplace new, it's like a new chapter, and that's the way I look at my life. And it's really fascinating. And I'm I'm curious if you feel the same way. You know, I'll do something and I'll go all in on it. And then, yeah, a little the the squirrel ADHD in me goes, okay, I did that. And I find my kids will say, Mama, why don't you go back and you know teach dance again? Or why don't you go audition for one of the you know theater companies? And it's funny because while I loved it and I had a passion for it in that chapter, I've turned the page. And like I want to keep going and keep growing and keep doing. So that leads to what you touched on um as part of the intro. I have written my first ever feature film. Um like who saw that coming? Certainly not me. Um, and I've had incredible support, like you and so many other voiceover and acting colleagues who have just flooded in and just lifted me up and brought me so much support and joy. And so now we're on, I don't know what chapter 62 probably. I don't I don't know what page we're on, but so here we are in pursuing this. So and it's been a culmination of all things, right? You're you're a you're a product of your family, of your influences, of your experiences, of my travels, of the foods I've eaten, the people I've met, things I've tried and that worked, things I tried and they didn't work.

Robb 11:55

Yeah.

Jen 11:55

And you just get stronger and more resilient, more resourceful. Um and that's kind of me in a nutshell. Strong, resilient, resourceful.

Robb 12:08

Yeah, and and I I love that, yeah. I mean, you're you you you seem to be uh the type of person which this works out great in uh acting and and voice acting is you take bold choices. You make bold choices and you stick to them. And then but like you said, with the things that you've tried, you know, you're kind of like, oh, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. I'm going to I'm I'm doing something else now. I'm gonna I'm gonna put another shirt in the in the closet of my life. And like, and I can have all these different shirts from these different things that I've done. I love that. And and I love that you found something else. It's you know, it's tangent to what we do, and obviously all of the skills that you have uh for you know being on camera, being, you know, voice acting, being on stage, things like that, those were like you said, those were all little pieces of the puzzle to help you to get to where you are now. You know, and and who knows what that next chapter or that next t-shirt's gonna be that you're that you're gonna be uh wanting to go after. I I just think it's great. Uh you know, we you know I hate the phrase YOLO. You know, you only live once. I hate that to my core because I am more of a yodo person. You only die once. You get a chance to live every day.

Jen 13:26

I like that.

Robb 13:27

So you have to live every day. You ha you have these 24 hours and that's and that's it. You know, I I I unfortunately am getting to that age where I wake up and friends I had in high school are no longer with us. You know, I have friends that are younger than me that are no longer with us because, you know, they were in a car accident or this, or some some health thing came up out of nowhere that they didn't even know. Uh so so I am very much, you know, you you only die once. You have to live every day.

Jen 13:59

Uh well, and I think you touched on something with the bold choices. And I'm not great at social media. I mean, people are like, oh, I like your social media. I mean, okay, I appreciate that, but I'm not I'm not an active participant. I'm not a content creator, I am a sharer, you know, like you know, if the thing, you know, blows up my skirt, I'm like, hey, let's go pose this or let's talk about this thing. But one of the things that's kind of been an accidental compliment um in my life is that people are seeing just again the risks, the jumps, the go-for-it, the how hard can it be mentality, and are finding inspiration in that. And and and that's it's certainly, you know, I just put myself out there, you know, but it has certainly been something that I forget. And let me let me tell you a really fast story to support that message. I was at one of the many things. I was a retail bank manager, not the right job for Jen Greenfield, let me be clear. But I was at some sort of little banking conference, and this man was talking about something about his wife. And I'm over here like, what? What is what the heck's wrong with it? I don't remember even the context, but and not like in a yeah, it sounds judgy, but I was just kind of like, oh my gosh, she's a woman, and like, come on. And he stopped me and he said, Jen, not everyone is like you. He wanted me an ugly, but it did give me pause to go, yeah, I'm over here. Like, come on, girl power, go for it, take the risk, try the thing. And I have to be reminded that while I want to be that for other people, other women, a lot of people are insecure and scared, and um maybe don't think they can do it. And so anyway, my point to that was that as I was saying, you know, when I when I start sharing all these different things I'm doing, people are they're listening and and encouraged. I had someone go, you know, I decided to revisit a story that I wrote a long time ago that I hadn't thought I'd ever revisit. But I've seen how much, you know, you're writing and you're excited about it. And now I'm kind of excited about it too. And you know, so it's it's nice to be able to share all these different things and to show, because this is very important to me, you're not you're not one thing. You're not what you do. Oh yeah. You are you are a flower with a thousand different petals on it, right? Or you can be. You know, um, you don't have to just be the stem and be like, I'm only this, I only do voice. Why? Why not open yourself up? Again, make the choice, take a risk, and just try lots of things.

Robb 17:01

Yeah. And you know, and sometimes that's easier said than done. I think you're exactly right. Because, you know, change is scary. You uh you have 14 different households you have been in, 14 different cities, 14 different lives you've lived, and 14 uh different circles of influence that you, you know, communities you created, circles around you that you created were a part of that give you more understanding of that because of that transient mindset. Like you, you even said, you're like, you know, every two years, this is gonna change. Yep. You know, they may say, oh no, we're gonna extend one year, but okay, it's still gonna change. Where am I going? Where are they sending me? And you don't know. You don't know until you see the paperwork and you're like, well, great. Manhattan and you're like, Manhattan, awesome. No Kansas. Manhattan, Kansas. You're like, son of a, I didn't even know that existed. Yeah.

Jen 18:00

So No, you are you are bang on. And you know, it's funny because some people would look at my life, I bet, and go, how miserable. How miserable to move every two to three years and you can't make friends or you can't get a job or you don't have a home base. And funny, right? I would look at other people who've never left their town and maybe think, oh, that's so sad. Like they've never gone anywhere. It is, it's perspective. You are so bang on.

Robb 18:26

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. But I think it's important. And I, you know, I've I feel like I'm I'm like you that we have that in common. I am and I have it on my social media. I consider my, you know, where you put all of your ERs. You know, what are you, you know, would you as you're describing yourself? I'm a voice actor, I'm a director, I'm a I I I have on there that I am a fierce encourager. Because you want to do something? I'm gonna be like, yes, let's make it happen. I know a person that does this, or I know a location that'd be great for that, or I know, you know, this that how can I connect you to the thing that you want to do that is going to that is going to spark that that ember within you to turn it on. And it costs you nothing. Yeah.

Jen 19:06

It costs you nothing to be kind, to be encouraging, to connect.

Robb 19:11

Exactly. Exactly.

Jen 19:14

I love that.

Robb 19:14

Yeah.

Jen 19:15

It's you've done that for me. You've already reached out. I I don't I'm I'm happy to say. Unexpectedly. Um is and other other folks have done. Hey Jen, I saw this workshop and I thought of you. Oh my gosh. Uh thank you. And guess what? Now I want to make sure that I'm giving back. You know, it is what a beautiful kindness circle. Right. I love it.

Robb 19:39

And when you and you know, and the thing is, is when you do it and you don't expect and you know, I don't I you don't expect anything in return. I don't expect it, you know, it's not it's not like a favor that has to be repaid. It's like this is right because this is right. This is I'm gonna do this because, you know what, why not? Because otherwise I could sit here and, oh, I thought of Jen, but I'm not gonna let her know about this, even though it's something I wouldn't do, but it might be something that would be advantageous for her or whomever it would be. So it's like, again, cost me nothing but a couple of seconds out of the day to either send a text or or or a call. Yeah, I'm I'm and I've said this several times on this podcast, I'm big on the if someone crosses my mind, I will send a message. If we're you know, if we're lucky to have you if I'm lucky to have your cell number, I will text you directly. Otherwise, I'm hitting you on like, you know, Instagram Messenger or Facebook Messenger or whatever, just like, hey, you crossed my mind. Hope things are good. Take care. That's it. You don't have to respond, you don't have but I feel like there's a reason when people cross your mind for certain things. And I don't know what it is, and I don't need to know. But I just want to do my part in saying, hey, thought about you. Hope all's well. And I mean it. You know what I mean? And that's what I know you do. And that's and that's where it could end. And that's that's all it has to be. But you just have to be the type of person that is willing to say, this isn't this is weird. Okay, yeah. And and you know, and as a man texting a married woman, that could come off as weird. Like I was thinking of you. It's like, no, this like it's not like it's not like that. I was just for whatever reason, I'm sitting here doing my taxes and you cross my mind.

Jen 21:16

It's like, hey, Jim, hope things are good. Now, my poor husband, he didn't have a prayer, and he um he he'll laugh about this. First of all, he is like absolutely the le least jealous man ever. But it's funny, like I have um I have my gym. I I'm on a wordle chat with people, like where we change. So I'm like, I've got my gyms, I'm on a group chat with two gyms, I've got Mike, I've got John and Mike who are on my, you know, who are my other guys. And then like anytime like I'm on set, inevitably I have a husband. Um, you know, so you know, I'm always just like, oh yeah, well, you know, I had to do this with my husband, and my kids are just like, wait, what? And now they've understand it now, but I'm like, oh yes, I've had multiple husbands at this point. And and I am All these men in my life, but um it that that you kind of talked about the tomboy thing. I am absolutely stereotypical, Sagittarious, like you know, no BS kind of girl, like always. I was climbing trees. I would even ask my mom to cut my hair when I was on the T-ball team because like I I wanted to look like a boy. I don't know, like I just kind of wanted to like, you know, just be rough and tumble. And it it is absolutely part of who I am. And then going into construction, yeah, where I was like, if a boy, if the guys can do it.

Robb 22:33

Right. Yes.

Jen 22:34

Why can't I?

Robb 22:35

Why can't I? Yeah.

Jen 22:36

Which led to uh, which I didn't mention, not that it's a it's a brag, it's a but it's just kind of like a little, oh, I did something. Um, I'm a host for Lowe's. Um they have a how to anything series. Uh it's a DIY channel for folks. And when I pitched it, they have uh another female host, and she's perfectly lovely, but she doesn't do any of the building or you know, things like that. And so when I connected with the um senior creative director, I'm like, look, I would love to represent women in a sp, you know, in a male-dominated space, but like I know how to change a toilet. I know how to use every single power tool that I could find in any Lowe's, anywhere. And they were like, We love it. We're in, you're in. Like, let's do it. So it's been really cool to that's just been one more little notch, you know, that I get to go, yeah, making waves. And just again, I'm a you're a mantra person, I'm a mantra person. If you never ask, the answer is always no. So if you've got something you're interested in that you're thinking about, ask.

Robb 23:41

Yeah. Yeah.

Jen 23:42

Just ask.

Robb 23:43

Yeah. And and you know, and you could start by just asking your friend, hey, do you think if you get lucky enough to have a Jen Goodfield in your life, and they're like, yes, do it, find the person.

Jen 23:53

You know, or you're or And then I'm gonna tell Rob so he can start. Because he knows somebody.

Robb 23:57

I guarantee you he knows someone, and he will tell that person, he will introduce you. Yeah, you know, it's and that's the thing, is is that's that that first step is often the hardest one, you know, 100% to like, because you're putting yourself out there, and so to at least just vocalize it. I I I I love Andy Roth, he's uh casting director, yeah, uh and and coach. And his thing is like, don't just say it in your mind, because your mind is your imagination and it is not real, and your body does not respond to that like it does when you physically do something. So physically say it out loud. Physically say the words out loud to yourself, to the mirror, to a friend, because that changes that brain chemistry, and it literally becomes real, and you think about it differently then.

Jen 24:47

I mean, what more is there to say? I mean, that is absolutely you write it down, you say it out loud. Um you'll you'll laugh again to know me for a minute. I would talk to a tree tunk tree trunk if I thought, you know, like we'd get somewhere with the conversation.

Robb 25:03

Turn it into a rose bush.

Jen 25:04

Yeah, if we could do, yeah, if we could, yeah. Um but I like with the screenplay, you know, I've written it and and I keep refining it, you know, just to really make it just absolutely a piece of gold. But the other part of it is you have to, you know, it does become part of my daily conversation, you know, when I'm chatting with people, because again, you never know. Hey, you know, I post about it, and maybe you happen to see the post and go, oh Jen, I know somebody who can support that. But I'd be a fool if I wasn't actively sharing it with other people. And so the other day the Jehovah Witness showed up at my door. She's, you know, telling me about the good news. And I'm like, that's excellent. Uh also, I'm looking for an investor for my holiday rom. So can I have your paperwork? Here's my business card. If you think of it, and she was just like, I don't know that I know anyone, but I was like, well, I you're pitching me, I'm gonna pitch you. Yeah.

Robb 26:10

It's like, okay, cool. I'm gonna give you five minutes, you're gonna give me. That's how this is working. That's how you're aware. That's how this works. Yeah.

Jen 26:18

My daughter was like, Who are you talking to? I was like, Oh, it's Jehovah's Witness. Anyway.

Robb 26:22

It's Christmas Carolers. I was just reading the. No, that's that's awesome. Uh and seeing as we have been talking about it, let's t let's talk a more uh more about the holiday rom-com. Uh what was the inspiration uh like that you're like, I'm gonna write something. Where what I I'm gonna assume that was the first thing. Or was or was it an idea and you're like, ooh, let me write that down in a note in my phone, and then I'm gonna come back to that.

Jen 26:50

Okay. So this is a perfect way to cap this section because everything we've talked about completely brings us to how this happened.

Robb 27:00

Yeah.

Jen 27:01

So Jen, super active, doing the thing. Well, my knee is bugging me. It's been bugging me for years. And I'm just like, mm-hmm. And I kept getting Baker sis. And if anybody, any of your listeners know, they know it's this nasty bulge on the back of your knee. It's gross, and like the only way to get rid of it, two things, it's they they stick a huge needle in it and suck all the juice out. Sorry, listeners. Or they do an MRI and go, uh, yeah, your meniscus is torn to shit. You need to have surgery. And I was like, no, I don't, I can't be down because I'm just I love lifting weights and I'm active and always just go, go, going. Well, the universe said sit down. So I I have an incredible, incredible orthopedic surgeon. She did an amazing job. So she gets my meniscus all cute and tidy. Well, it's December. So literally December 2025.

Robb 28:04

Like, wow. Okay.

Jen 28:06

Yeah. So there I am. It's December. I'm sitting on the couch. I got this big ice contraption I ordered off um Amazon. And um I got pillow stacked up. I got coffee. I'm just like, and what do I do? I turn on the TV and it's nothing but holiday, you know, Christmas Hallmark stuff. And I'm watching them. And I again can't tell you why. And I'm not, I this is the story, and I stand by it. Something just a portal opened in my brain. And I even the orthopedic surgeon, I'm telling her this whole story. And she's like, Jen, I'm wondering if maybe the anesthesia like seriously like broke open something. When I tell you that this just hit me. Oh, and by the way, my husband had to go out of town for work. So I also I operate really well alone. He doesn't always like to hear that. Guys don't like to hear, you know, we're we're good. But he deployed all the time and stuff. So, you know, the kids and I just do our thing. So he leaves. So it's kind of like the kids are doing their thing, and I'm okay. I get my computer and when I tell you I start writing, I'm told it's called flow state. I went into a flow state and could not I've never written a screenplay before. I kind of quickly did some research like structure and whatever.

Robb 29:31

Yeah, yeah.

Jen 29:32

Yeah. But a friend of mine, um, Steve Snyder, he's been doing some screenwriting and he told me about this app you can download called Writer Duet. And it'll format. So you just type in it and it'll help, you know, format and make sure everything looks right. So I download that and I just start typing. And I'm typing and I'm typing and I'm screaming at the kids, hey, I need you to switch out my water on my knee. I can't, I can't get up. I can't stop typing. I had to make myself pee. Rob, I didn't eat for like three days. I'm up till two in the morning. Every I mean, I'm telling you, I couldn't type fast enough. And this story is just pouring out of me. Well, what is the story, you might ask? Well, it's A based on my husband and my relationship, shocker. Our protagonist is a female who runs her own construction business, who's hyper-independent, has no interest in love or relationship. She's been burned in the past. Anyway, is a little tropey, sure. But also it's everybody's over 40 and we're not, you know, and I, you know, and and she meets while my husband is older than me, I did change. I was like, we're gonna make him about the same age, just because we don't ever see that. Because oftentimes you either see the protagonist, the woman either has a love interest who's like 10 years younger than her, which nobody needs a third kid, and then um, or he's like way older. So anyway, I made him the same age, but yeah, so anyway, it all like life, experiences, characters all start finding their way into this screen, and it just and then a lovely voice actor, Allie uh Murphy, she sends me a message. She goes, Hey Jen, I was just listening to some podcasts and I thought I'd send this to you. And you want to know what it was called? A writer and producer for Hallmark tell you how to get in your Hallmark movie produced. And I was like, uh, oh, okay, yes, I will listen to this. Yeah, I will listen to this. Then I connect with those two people while the screenwriter she does um like a feedback mentoring thing. I'm like, you know what? So I pay her and she provides feedback. We get on a Zoom call that's supposed to last an hour. It lasts three. We totally brainstorm all of these, you know, just how to really high, you know, um raise the stakes and cause tension and make it fun, all these extra little Bennies. Anyway, and just everything after that, you reaching out. Um, um uh another um voice actor, um oh my god, her name. Hello, Perry Menopause. Her name has just left me. Anyway, um, she reaches out to me. She's like, Jen, I need to connect you with this other producer. Somebody else said, Hey, I know someone, can I email them your script? Yes, yeah, yes to everything. So this has been that little sprout of the ground of that flower coming out, going, you know what? People are helping me water it, they're helping me nurture it. And this is that unexpected thing that I didn't know was gonna grow. And to your Andy Roth point, I'm writing it down. I'm saying it out loud. This screenplay, this feature is gonna get made. And it's all thanks to the community of people who are loving me and supporting me and cheering me on. And it's gonna happen.

Robb 32:55

Yeah.

Jen 32:55

There you go. I said it out loud. Get ready, everybody. You're gonna have a date night. I believe it.

Robb 33:00

I believe it's a date night movie. And I'm excited about it when it does happen, you know, because I mean, that again, it's that it's the passion you have for it, that that fire you have helping to ignite other embers to turn into a fire that that that then also get excited about what you're doing, but also the the possibility of the things that they could do as well. Um, you know, it's uh it's just I I'm just so excited for it and and for for you know when it comes about, when, not if, when it does come about. Yeah, absolutely because it is. It's it's going to happen uh and and it's gonna it's gonna be amazing.

Jen 33:41

I think I'm so glad to have you along for the journey. I really mean that. You've you have just been so supportive and lovely. I just I really appreciate it.

Robb 33:50

Yeah. Well, I and like I said, I it's you it's it's because of me feeding off of your passion for it. And and also I'm a big I'm a big holiday soft. I'm a big softy period, but I also like I am the Christmas guy, and like it's just I'm like that. My my mother's favorite channel, like was the Hallmark channel, and she would watch that like year round, and so she she loved all the stories, but especially the Christmas stories, because you know, she made you know she made Christmas special for us, you know, growing up things like that.

Jen 34:20

It makes you feel good.

Robb 34:21

Yeah.

Jen 34:22

Like I want to be a part of the things that make you feel good. I want to be a part of the things that that encourage you, that uh that I don't like to say empowered because you already have the power for you to recognize your power and use it. Um and like you said, you you like to give kindness and support and reminders that people are reminding people that they're special. And I think that's what those movies do. They give you a little escape and joy.

Robb 34:50

Yeah, 100%. 100%. And speaking of joy, Jen, what is bringing you joy right now? Aside from the writing, aside from the the pursuit, the pursuit of the bo of the of the movie, what's bringing you joy?

Jen 35:10

That's a great question. Being alive, and I want to share something personal. But a couple years ago, my husband had a pretty extreme personal event that happened. And through that, we we faced some things. We had some conversations that were, after 20 years of marriage, never on our radar. Um, it has led to him actually, while still working full-time, um, he is pursuing a second master's degree in clinical psychology through pepperdine. Um, and he stepped back and said, you know what? He's on he's 56 years old. He's like, I how am I gonna spend the rest of my life? Um, you know, I want to be present um and I want to help people. And it was an opportunity for me to do a lot of self-reflecting as well. And you know, we talked about the manifesting. One of the things that came into my life was an exper was somebody made said, you need to tell yourself how lucky you are. And so what has happened over the last few years is and and that brings me joy is realizing how lucky I am. I feel lucky that I'm me. All the things that I could get upset about myself, I'm like, I'm strong, I'm vogue, I'm outspoken, I'm really honest. I don't, you know, I I I have hard boundaries. I, you know, maybe just could view those things as negative. And instead I'm like, golly, no. I'm I'm a powerful, strong, independent woman and who has good intentions and a good heart and does things for the right reasons. I have a family that God, my kids are amazing. And when I see, you know, I connect with other other parents or in other situations and they're like, God, my this, this, and this. And then I go, oh my gosh, I am so lucky that I'm not working, you know, dealing with that. The other day I read another thing that said it was talking about the manifesting, but it it said something that I I don't, I'll be curious your thoughts, because I don't say this out loud or even really think it. It said, waking up financially secure. Have you ever thought like that that was the thing? You just wake up and you're like, I'm in my bed, I'm in my house, I go in the kitchen, I get I can get drinking water, I get my food. And I was like, No, I need to be saying that out loud. How lucky I am that I wake up safe. I don't feel like somebody's gonna barrel through my door. I don't feel like if I go outside, I need to pretend I am safe and financially secure. But higher above that, music. Music always brings me joy. It rights me. It it if I'm off, I either listen to really sad songs to kind of, you know, swim around in it, like get under that rain cloud. Or I listen to music that's upbeat, then it makes me want to work out, right? We get endorphins going. But music is, and then sometimes I'll actually sit down to the piano and I'm not a trained pianist, that's my daughter. I am a hack, but I can accompany myself. I'll sing a song that just feeds my soul and just feels right. And um, but music a million percent lucky in my life brings me joy. Recognizing it and saying it out loud brings me joy, and then music. And I love all kinds of music. What about you? Do you like music? What kind of music do you like?

Robb 39:19

Oh, I I listen to everything. I know, I'm saying. It's like if if I ever get the ox, people are like, what is this playlist? I'm like, that is just that's my that's my recently played. What are you talking about?

Jen 39:29

That is Welcome to my website.

Robb 39:31

I'm going from the soundtrack from Avenue Q to like uh, you know, some Pavarotti to, you know, someone Oh, you are my you know, preservation hall jazz band to, you know, it's to it's just it's all it's all over the place. Some outcast gets thrown in there.

Jen 39:51

But isn't music just it's just so powerful.

Robb 39:54

Oh yeah. Yeah. It's it's it's it's a you know, they say it's you know it's a universal language because you can say so much with with music without even having any words, or or the words you don't have to understand the words that are being said to be able to feel that emotion and that connection to whatever the music is. So yeah, I'm a huge, huge music fan. I mean, that's one reason why I you know got into radio 30 years ago. It's like it's you know, that was it was uh the music's in me. So, you know.

Jen 40:28

There's your radio voice. I love it. I love it.

Robb 40:31

It's just uh yeah, it's it's something that uh you know I'm the I'm that annoying person that has a lyric for any conversation. You know, kind of like movie quotes. Yeah, kind of like movie quotes for whatever the situation is, but it's like you know, I got song lyrics and songs I can sing to pretty much anything.

Jen 40:50

So it's uh Oh my gosh, we see that's I joke, that would be like a character in my next screenplay, is that that person who always answers with song lyrics because I am ab oh my gosh, I love that more about you. I am absolutely the same way. Even to a f I mean, my kids just roll their eyes, but they love music too, you know. They they love music too, which I'm again also very lucky. We've all you know, we always have music going in the house. My children are musicians themselves. My husband plays guitar, um, but it it does. It it can affect your mood, it can calm you, it can cheer you. Like I said, and there's nothing wrong with being sad in it, too, you know. Okay, here's my question. I'm turning the I'm turning I'm turning the interview around. Are you a melody or a lyrics person?

Robb 41:45

Um I'm both.

Jen 41:46

Yeah.

Robb 41:47

Because I I I write poetry too, so Oh, oh. So I mean lyrics matter. Lyric lyrics do matter, you know. But also, like I said, a melody, you know, matters too. And you can you can again bring someone to tears with just a you when you think about just a transition of these same, you know, if you go by by piano, eighty-eight notes. These are the eighty-eight notes of music, and how you transition, how quickly your pace, your tempo, legato, staccato, you know, fourteen, you know, all of these things, and you can cause someone to cry, you can cause someone to cheer, you could cause someone to feel pride in their chest, you know, without speaking a word. You know? It's it's amazing. It's magic. It's uh But yeah, but lyrics too. I mean, but there are lyrics that sometimes there are lyrics that are more beautiful than the music that that it's put up against. You know, agreed.

Jen 42:44

Oh, agreed.

Robb 42:45

There's uh not not that this this is just an example I thought of as right now, but like do you remember the song from Aha, Take On Me?

Jen 42:51

Yeah.

Robb 42:52

Yeah. You know, say Take On Me. You know, it's great. Uh probably about ten years ago, they did an unplugged version of that song, slowed it down, and made it a ballad. Now they're all twenty years older than when they released the song. So the meaning behind it is so completely different. If you can find that on YouTube to watch that and to listen to that. I wish they would release it somewhere, but they they didn't.

Jen 43:17

But it's on like a look it up.

Robb 43:19

Yeah, it's like on an MTV unplug. I'll put it in the in the show notes. I'll put a link in the show notes so that listeners can find it. But yeah, it those those words change completely by the music that is put behind them. So yeah.

Jen 43:32

I even heard um red, well, I it was uh it was you know just a video but with words on it, talking about a Hansen song that, and it may even have been their mm bop song, but the lyrics were like shockingly profound, but it was just this teeny bopper beat that it got put to. But like when you talk about so I'm just gonna throw this out here because when you talk about poetry, for me. Me, the two greatest poetic, lyrical, brilliant songwriters, Ark Garf Simon and Ark Garfunkel and the Indigo Girls. The words, the word choice, the we're not just saying pink, we're saying something so much deeper and and colorful and and exciting. And the golly, they're they're they are poets who happen to be songwriters because they are just just incredible. Incredible.

Robb 44:42

One 100%.

Jen 44:47

Oh, for sure.

Robb 44:49

You know, uh I when you say that I think of like his song Vienna. Uh if you've not heard that song recently, oh I've played it.

Jen 44:56

Yeah, for the group, yeah.

Robb 44:58

You know, it it you know slow down, you're doing fine. You can't be everything you wanna be before your time. You know? It's like it's like what what inspiration is that to life? It's like, hey, hey, it's okay. Don't panic. Consider yourself lucky, you know? You can't be everything you want to be before it's your time. So slow down. You're doing just fine.

Jen 45:25

And in all things, oh I'm so glad you said that. That is such a beautiful example. But this is one of the things that I also, when we talked about the chapters in my life, not the chapters in anyone's life, you were a different person during that chapter. So when my kids go, Mama, why don't you get, you know, go back to stage or why don't you teach dance again? I'm a completely different person. Um, but I also send folks a message too that I also wouldn't be where I am and doing what I'm doing, to your point, with the the lyrics of before your time, if I tried to do it at a different time. I would not be a I'm a working actor, both in voiceover but on camera, but certainly on camera, I play mom a lot. And I don't care. Typecast me all day long. You want to keep booking me? Right. Let's go. Hugh Grant's done quite well being typecasted. But the point being, circumstances have the, you know, whatever. I'm just talking kind of like about age and life experience. If you if I tried to do this, if I'm like, I want to do this at 30, yeah, it wasn't my time. It wasn't the right chapter. And so be patience, oh my gosh, as a creative, come on now. Those words do not belong in the same sentence at all. So I, as part of growing, just as a as a person, being able to step back and recognize there's a all the things I still want to try, but going backwards, I was just a different age, a different person, a different energy.

Robb 47:07

I looked at the different set of knees, different, oh you know, touche.

Jen 47:13

Exactly. Um exactly. And so just oh, I just I'm so glad you brought that up. And so just kind of to tie even tie in more with this conversation is you know, being able to try things, but if it's not happening right now, maybe it's not nobody wants to hear that. But if you're expending, expending to the expense of your health, of your well-being, of your finances, of your family life, of having a life, maybe it's not the right time. So slow down. Oof, that's so glad you brought that up. So glad you mentioned that. Because yeah, each chapter you're just a different person.

Robb 48:01

All right, Jen, this is the second segment of the show. We're gonna dive a little bit deeper into your mental health journey. I definitely believe, you know, everybody has down days. If you don't want to say you have depression or you don't want anxiety or whatever, but everybody has a down day. Sometimes you just get up and you don't want to get out of bed. Um, but the more we talk about it, the easier it gets, you know. So for you, how do you keep the darkness at bay?

Jen 48:29

You told me you were gonna ask me that, and it's a wonderful question. It could it could be puddle deep and it could be ocean deep on answering it. You know, earlier on in this segment, I talked about, you know, the power of music. Um I'm still gonna say, you know, music still looking around and recognizing how lucky I am and the joy that I have and the people in my life that I have chosen, the people I have allowed to let go, that I've needed to you know, people use the term toxic. I don't love it. Um, it's a big strong word. Um, but it can come in many forms, right? Water can kill you. You know, even this, you know, kind of basic things. Um two parts, I would say. One is community, aligning, even social media. I know that's a huge part of a lot of people's mental health battles is comparison or doom scrolling and those kinds of things, but even making sure that my social media is what I want to look at. Like I I think social media has a place, and I do. I find joy in it, but I also follow people and accounts that are fun or teach me something or have history or yeah, just make me think. And so I'm strategic about that with the people in my life. I'm strategic about that. Um feeding off the positive, um taking moments to myself, but then this was the other thing I was trying to get to, and I got off track a little bit. You have to try. You also have to try. You have you have to make an effort. You said it earlier in this, earlier in the last segment. You have to try to reach out to people. You have to try to make the friendships work, especially when you are a parent or or even just you know an adult and you're busy and you're working. It is very easy to like commit to this, come home, eat dinner, go to bed, rinse, recycle, repeat. You have to make an effort reaching out to people, send the message, make the phone call, and just being like, hey, I just need, you know, like we we just have to make this work. You have to make friendships work, you have to make community work. So I can do these things in my life and then hope it comes to me and feeds my soul and it keeps the darkness at bay. But then the other side of it is I need to do my part and reach out to other people as well and make an effort. So I also just think I know myself. I always say I don't, I'm not a person who, if by clinical definition, is depressed, you know, would be depressed. But knowing Jen Greenfield's energy, and you know, if I'm always here, here, here, I have my version of depressed, right? You know, like it's maybe not that definition, but I may be just kind of feeling like I don't want to go for my walk. I don't want to work out, and it's not, it's that, so that's it's you know, again, not clinical, but also it's just like, okay, so when you say that, what do I need to do? I need to reach out. I can talk to my husband too, of course. Um listen to some music, call Rob. You know, um, but I just again I I just I am I want to be in a in a world of that positive of that positivity and and to have people like you and other friends that I have who they reach out when you're quiet. Have you have you heard that? Like people who, you know, they'll comment all on your social media, but then if you don't post for a while, who reaches out? And I like that because I think that that's yeah, when you need a minute, when you're not present, you're not calling, you're not posting, you know, those things kind of happen. Who's there? And I just have really I've culled it down to a quality over quantity community of family, friends, colleagues. And that's it's that. It's it's it's it's recognizing how lucky I am and then being around people who lift me up.

Robb 53:34

It's and you know, with your personality, as you've discussed here, you know, it's almost a a different type of, like you said, being down. You know, the because you you can't be on a hundred all the time. It gets exhausting, and you can't, you know, you can't pour from an empty cup. You can't you know what I mean? You you you have to recharge. And how does that recharge look for you in those days? It's like, yeah, today's a down day. I don't like you said, don't want to go for a walk, I don't want to work out. I uh you know, and and it's okay to rest.

Jen 54:12

Yes.

Robb 54:12

It's okay to rest to recharge. And I think you have to give yourself that permission to say, hey, how you know, in your words, how lucky am I to do all the things I am, and how lucky am I to take a moment to rest.

Jen 54:26

That's so good.

Robb 54:27

You know?

Jen 54:27

Because I'm not. My husband's a napper. Oh my gosh.

Robb 54:32

I took a nap before we had this interview. Good for you.

Jen 54:35

Good for you. I, again, am a work in progress. So while I may not nap, I'll lay down and read. You know, so that's a I love that you're saying that. Like, because I am not, I am. He thinks my husband thinks I have like a nuclear generator like located somewhere in my body because I just go dust till dawn. I'm just constantly go, go, go. But um, I like that. Yeah, reminding yourself it's okay. It's okay to say no. Now I am good at saying I'm good at saying no, and I'm actually the encourager. My friends will tell you that I'm like, say no. Say no. Um, I am good at saying no, but the exactly the resting part that I love that. So see, you're you're helping me here too. You're identifying some things that I'm not articulating. It is. It's saying, I need to rest. I need to just chill. It doesn't have to look like a nap, but it needs to be downtime. It needs um to be not stimulated, being on your you can sit, but still be looking at your phone.

Robb 55:37

Right.

Jen 55:37

And that's not rest, you know. Um, so calming the mind, doing some meditations. Oh my gosh, there's even five-minute meditations. But let me tell you, when you're somebody who's go, go, go, go, to stop for five minutes feels like an hour.

Robb 55:59

Yeah.

Jen 55:59

And you're like, how can I not even prioritize? I can't, but you know what I mean. Asking yourself, why does five minutes feel like this massive inconvenience? And what a refresh, what a restart to just put it down. And then you go, what if I did it for 10 minutes? I wonder how I would feel after that. You know? But you're but you're you make a great point.

Robb 56:26

Yeah, it's a new sensation for you. You and you're like, all right, how do I work this into uh, you know, how do I work this into my life to be a part of that helps me be a better version of myself, you know, to to to give myself that grace to rest because I am going, going, going, and I know I'm still gonna be able to do all these other things, but to take a moment to, you know, rub the dog's belly, to go for go for a walk, not for exercise, but for but for experiencing nature, for seeing the flora and the fauna on the path around your home or wherever it is, to go to a local greenway you've not gone before, or a botanical garden, and just experience, not for exercise. But to feed your soul visually and RL from the sounds of nature and things like that, the smells of the you know, those type of things.

Jen 57:26

I'm gonna go for a walk. You can just finish this up. I'm gonna No.

Robb 57:30

But yeah, that's what I'm saying. And to give yourself that permission to do that. That that that is o that's okay. You're not falling behind because you gave yourself 10 minutes to sit on a porch and have a cup of coffee and leave the phone inside and to just listen to the wind. All right, you're in you're in Arizona, you're not gonna sit outside 115 degrees drinking coffee right now, but you know, maybe at the morning, you know, in the sunrise or the sunset or something like that, you know. And to and to say, yeah, this is okay. This is this is part of what all that other stuff allows me to have. Doing all that other work gives me the ability to take this moment.

Jen 58:13

Bingo.

Robb 58:14

You know?

Jen 58:15

Bingo. One of the things that I started doing last year, again, I also think to myself, like, we're not thinking about this, is grounding. So I get barefoot. I mean, think you literally we don't wear shoes in the house, but beside the point, but like, but literally, you could be in shoes if you think about it, from the minute you wake up in the morning till you go to sleep. You are cover, your feet are covered, most people. So taking your shoes off, standing on the ground, the dirt in your yard. I've been doing that, and I'll go out and I'll invite the kids, I'll invite, I'm like, anybody wants to come. You'd like, I'm like, I'm just gonna, they'll go. Even my kids know they're like, oh mama, are you gonna go grounding? I'm like, yep. So in the afternoon, like you said, I'll get a cup of coffee. It's not long because yes, it's a zillion trillion disease. And I degrees, and you'd laugh. I have a picture on social media where I'm trying to ground and I'm sitting on the ground, but all I have in my front yard are two palm trees. So I'm sitting in the shadow of the skinny. I'm like acting this out on the other end. I'm like sitting in the shadow of the skinny palm tree. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm sort of in the shade. It's hysterical. Anyway, but I started grounding because what a dear, you know, reconnecting with earth, just the energy and the vibe. And again, you are touching on something that you're reminding me I need to do. And I think it's important for other listeners. I think we're kind of we're both learning, and you're teaching me and reminding me, and I think others are gonna catch us too. Is if I feel that I don't even have 10 minutes in my day for me, for rest, for grounding, to just stand outside and just be how am I prioritizing my day? What a what a fantastic, thoughtful question that I need to revisit. If I feel stressed that I can't even take a few minutes to do a five-minute meditation, I'm gonna miss something. I gotta check my email. I can do it, but I gotta have my phone with me. What the heck happened to us? 90s kids, we didn't have anything. We we stayed out all night doing you. Like, we didn't have I almost never watched TV when I was a kid. I was too busy playing and flashlight tag and climbing trees and you know, playing baseball and whatever. Like, but now we're just so digitally and and just I tell my son all the time, I'm like, it's stim constant stimulation. But yeah, so what a great you're giving me something to think about, like, and maybe you schedule it. And that even sounds lame that you're like, yes, I'm so important and I'm so busy that I must schedule you know 10 minutes to myself peaceful time. But that's I'm so glad you brought it up because it's really it's got it's got me thinking.

Robb 1:01:27

But see, that's part of it too. If you have to schedule it, you are the type of person, as you said, that sets strong boundaries. And you need to set a strong boundary for yourself. And don't allow yourself to break that boundary either. Because again, yeah, if you're doing all this other stuff and you can't enjoy the fruits of your labor, uh yeah, I tell my wife all the time, it's like, you know what? Do I want to go out at night? It'd be nice, but you know what? Let's enjoy the mortgage. And let's just sit here in the house. And and and we got everything we love right here. Let's just enjoy the mortgage. So if so if you're so busy that you can't enjoy the life you're building, then there's there's a priority shift that needs to happen.

Jen 1:02:10

Yeah, I'm so glad this beard has veered down this little alleyway. Um, but you're right. And so it's it's it's uh it's it's gonna be um I think it's good for everybody to think about. But yeah, I'll definitely yeah, re-re uh reassess my priorities. It's it's just so true.

Robb 1:02:34

All right, Jen, this is the third segment of the show. It's time now for the Fast Five. The Fast Fast Guide! It's time now for the Fast Five. Fast Five. Sorry, I'm still working on a theme song for this uh segment.

Jen 1:02:46

Uh I don't know, it's kind of catchy.

Robb 1:02:49

The Fast Five is powered by Poddex, and it's an app created by my friend Travis Brown. If you go to chewing the fatbr.com slash poddex, uh it'll take you to your favorite app store where you can download it. It's made for podcasters, but they're great icebreaker questions as well. Okay.

Jen 1:03:04

I didn't know about it.

Robb 1:03:05

Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

Jen 1:03:07

Cool. Okay, I'm gonna check it out. All right, let's go.

Robb 1:03:09

Uh no wrong answers, just first thing that comes to the top of your mind. You ready? Hey.

Jen 1:03:14

I don't know. Is the audience ready? Because we just don't know what's gonna come out.

Robb 1:03:19

Here we go. Question number one. Are there any local dishes or food products from any of your 14 places that you lived or grew up that you absolutely miss from where you are right now?

Jen 1:03:35

Yes, and we just brought it up last night. It is a restaurant called Savos, um, and it doesn't exist anymore. When we lived in Germany, really fast, when we lived in Germany, um, Savos was like one block down from our house, and it was run by a Muslim man, and he absolutely loved us. And when I got pregnant, and this is also just you know cultural, when I got pregnant, we would go down there, or my husband would go down there, and he would literally serve us the food on the dishes that they serve in the restaurant, and he'd just put foil over it, and he just said, bring them back when you're done.

Robb 1:04:12

Oh.

Jen 1:04:12

And it was, and so I'd have French onion soup and the big old you know crock. The croc. And yeah, and we just wash it, and then we just he'd just send us home with silverware and plates and bowls. So savos.

Robb 1:04:26

That's awesome. That's awesome. Question number two. What's the most annoying bill you have to pay?

Jen 1:04:36

Right now in Arizona, the electric bill. There we go. Let's just go. There we go. We're gonna go with electric bills.

Robb 1:04:41

There we go.

Jen 1:04:43

Bing, bing, bing.

Robb 1:04:44

I was about to say they just raised the rate uh over here where we are. Uh Dominion just raised the rate. So I'm like, right, now I get to pay more. And you know we're using it more, so yay, yeah.

Jen 1:04:53

Yeah, yeah. Electric. No, uh, there you go. I like it. That's it.

Robb 1:04:56

That's a good one. All right, question number three. Do you prefer live action or cartoon superhero shows?

Jen 1:05:06

Live action.

Robb 1:05:07

Yeah?

Jen 1:05:08

Yep. Also, because I kind of, you know, I want to be cast in one.

Robb 1:05:12

There you go. I I get that. I get that.

Jen 1:05:15

So there you go.

Robb 1:05:16

Well, see, I would like to be cast in a cartoon superhero show. I'm just saying, so I can see it. I can see it either way. Question number four. Toilet paper, over or under?

Jen 1:05:30

Over, over, over, over. If you say anything else, we are not friends. You're out. See you later. Goodbye. Jeez, I can't even believe that's a question. And if I come in your house and it's under, oh yeah, I'm turning it over. I'm a fixer, I'm a fixer, folks.

Robb 1:05:46

That's awesome. That's awesome.

Jen 1:05:48

Yeah, no hesitation on that one.

Robb 1:05:52

All right. And question number five. If you could learn any language fluently, what would it be?

Jen 1:06:02

Spanish. Yeah. Spanish. And my son's gonna start, and I need to start. My husband did Spanish. We just we gotta commit. My daughter is on her fourth year of Japanese in high school, and we're like and the kids both had to learn Hebrew as part of their benae mitzvahs, but you don't use it. And I learned a lot of German when we lived in Germany. I only spoke to my kids in German when they were babies. Oh wow. But then once we moved stateside, I didn't have anybody to talk to. So, but nope, Spanish, especially in the contracting world. I I can speak, you know, they laugh at me Spanish, you know. Gringo, gringo Spanish. Right. I can I can get by, but yeah.

Robb 1:06:44

Yeah, but you're making an effort Spanish.

Jen 1:06:46

You're making yeah, good try. Yeah. Or I say hola, and then like six different things in English, and then I try four, you know, three more words, and anyway. We all need to commit to that. My gosh. Come on. Priorities once again.

Robb 1:06:59

It's a it's a useful language, definitely a useful language. Well, that is our fifth question. That's our fast five, and that is the show. Jen. Woo! Thank you so much for being here. I really do appreciate it. Uh, if folks want to keep up with you and the Holiday Rom-Com or your uh on-screen or your voice acting, or what's the best way that they could do that?

Jen 1:07:20

Ben, I like Instagram. Come follow me on Instagram. Let's play.

Robb 1:07:23

Okay.

Jen 1:07:24

Um, Mama Greenfield. I'm Mama Greenfield kind of everywhere, but I'm most active on Instagram and on LinkedIn. So, so yeah, come connect with me. Let's play. Um and Robb, thank you. This was fantastic. It was, it was, it was the, you know, friendship, it was the therapy session, it was the it was the the laughter, the joy that I needed for today, the reflection that I needed for today. And I am what a what a wonderful opportunity. I I'm so honored you invited me to be on. So thank you.

Robb 1:07:58

Thank you. Thank you. And and I do. I I love you. I love what you're doing. Cannot wait to see this movie or help you get it made. Yes. Uh, and uh the the holiday rom com and of course all the other stuff that you got going on. I wish you nothing but success in all of it.

Jen 1:08:14

Thank you. And anytime you want to let me know you're thinking about me, you just you just let me know. You're such a doll. Well, thanks and thanks everyone for listening. Appreciate you.

Robb 1:08:27

Absolutely. And if you would like to support this podcast, I'd appreciate it if you bought me a coffee at chewingthefatbr.com. But until next time, I look forward to the chance we have to sit a spell and chew the fat.