June 30, 2023

Seth Goldstein, Podcaster, Entrepreneur, Digital Marketer

Seth Goldstein, Podcaster, Entrepreneur, Digital Marketer

Former newshound Seth Goldstein calls in from Philly to talk about being an entrepreneur and how his ADHD is actually a superpower for him and how his "SQUIRREL!" moments actually help him out of the down days.

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00:00
I consider ADHD a superpower.

00:10
Welcome to another episode of Chewing the Fat. I am your host, Big Robb. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you so much for the folks who have bought me a coffee at ChewingtheFatBR.com. The folks who have left ratings and reviews on Apple Podcasts and over at Pandora and Spotify. Thank you for helping to make this podcast in the top 5% of podcasts globally. It's all because of you. It's all because of you, the folks who appreciate.

00:38
What the heart of this podcast is about is that we are not alone and that we can be in this, these crummy days that we may all have together. And that gives us strength. And another person that gives me strength, I'm so happy to have him on the podcast. We've been talking about it for a while. Joining me from Philly, the city of brotherly love, please welcome the one and only Seth Goldstein. Hello, hello, hello. Hey Seth. The one and only, there's no one quite like me.

01:08
That's right. That's an understatement. The one, the only, how's it going? Big Robb. How are you doing? Oh, I'm doing great. Especially now that, you know, the light is out because I am with big Rob right now. I'm stoked. My friend. I am stoked. Seth and I met kind of, uh, during the great shutdown of 2020. Um, it was 2020, it was one of those, one of the 2021, you know, the blip as I like to, to refer to it.

01:37
when everybody was shut down. And thanks to our friend Travis Brown, he had this- Oh, I love Travis. Had this great old mastermind workshop for a lot of folks who were looking to put podcasts together and learn more about this stuff and how to market and all that. And so that's where Seth and I met. Yeah. Thanks to Travis. And Seth's been podcasting for a while.

02:00
Yeah, a little bit longer I'd like to admit. But let's and we'll get into that. But you're you're calling via zoom from Philly, right? It's just north. But yeah, I'm one of those people that calls myself Philadelphia, I'm really from Bucks County, which is the just north. I'm 20 miles from Philadelphia center from Center City. Okay, because how far I am to drive an hour and 10 minutes, because there's no straight line. There is but it's

02:29
Stopping going. It's actually longer to go in a straight line than it is to go in a zigzag. That's crazy. That's crazy. Now, are you a lifetime Philadelphian? Born and raised. Can't you tell by this accent? I mean, my accent's thicker than your accent. I say water and figure and all that stuff. Water. What did you say? Water. Water. Water ice. That's awesome. It's not Italian ice. It's water ice. Water ice. It sounds weird with a southern accent, though.

02:59
Water eyes. And Seth, so for the folks who don't know, you have a podcast called Entrepreneurs Enigma. It's also, it's not just a podcast. You have a whole like, whole thing, whole, I want to say it's like, oh, it's a newsletter. I mean, it's a whole thing. So give us some background on Entrepreneurs Enigma and Seth.

03:29
Well, I'm a former journalist and then I burned out from that massively. And then we can go into the, in the next segment, we can go into the PTSD that that gave me. Yeah. That was nice and fun. Um, but then I left that when the sales for a little bit, Royce, I don't like selling big boxes of construction sites. Decided that I had been doing web design on the side since 98 before the millennium. Ooh, I'm old.

03:57
Um, and I decided that I should, well, my wife decided that I should go into web design to get started business to get a job. Well, five years in, I, I didn't gotten the job. It was going well. Some was born, had some complications at birth. Fine. Now sharp as an ox, oxen. He's strong little man at 10, but that killed the business.

04:25
So I went and worked for Merck for about a year and a half decided I cannot stand corporate America. Gotcha. It's for some people. They'd like it. But I was like, who's whose butts you have to kiss at what day and who do you not talk to until five o'clock? And you go home and then you say good morning to them because that's when they're actually up. Right. It's like, I mean, I, I'm only half joking when I talk about like, my boss would tell me don't talk to Joe or Steve or Donna before this time because they're Frankie. They haven't had their coffee yet. I'm like, weird.

04:55
So that's, and last thing I went back in the Goldstein media again, web design, SEO, pay per click, not paperclip, paper click. Yeah, that's the right word. Digital marketing. And then this whole time I had been dabbling in podcasting since 2010, mostly digital marketing, podcasts and whatnot. And then during the pandemic, I was like, I, I had been at that point, I had been a, um, at the start of pandemic, I had been a, a entrepreneur for

05:23
pretty much 13 years and I decided I want to do some pontificating on being an entrepreneur. Yeah. Well that turned into an interview podcast very quickly. Episode 11 which you will not see in the you won't see a lot of pontificating episodes. Those are all one through one through 10. That I can count. And then they started interviewing people again like I've been doing on past podcasts and that's what entrepreneurs and thing is I think one episode one

05:53
47 now it's been going on for like a year and a half comes out twice a week because I'm insane But I mean that's what you do I mean that you know when you when you're an entrepreneur and that's you know, this is your this is your lane This is so it's it's part of what you do. It's part of giving that knowledge and giving that insight to Up and coming entrepreneurs find out what's working with people. It's not working. What's You know the the knowledge that they can glean from people who've tried it and keeps them from having to you know

06:23
walk down that same path of failure and stuff. They still walk down the same path. Well, you don't learn from each other's mistakes. You have to make them again. But maybe that's dramatically. I always feel like you kind of like, well, oh, Seth went through this, or I heard Seth going through this, or Rob on the podcast said he went through that and he rise that like, oh, okay. Ooh, I just did that, but I didn't do a quiz bad. Right. Yeah. Right. And that's the whole idea. So.

06:47
I enjoy it. It's been a nice journey. It's also given me an excuse for business development because I can meet entrepreneurs that I want to do work with. And so that's kind of the ROI on it is that I get to meet people that I want to talk to, have a reason to reach out to people. And it has turned into some business, so I can't complain. Yeah, no, that's great. And like I said, you've found something where you can use those strengths. You use your ability as a journalist to interview, to...

07:17
pull out the juicy bits, as they say, you know, of the story to and, you know, to really get to the meat of what matters to people as their entrepreneurs. And I think it's so valuable. And again, you know, for your own for your own good to turn that into something where you can then collaborate with, whether it be through web design or SEO, or one of the other you know, plethora of other things, the cornucopia.

07:45
of Goldstein word. Yeah. You know, I want to be a ghost. I like that. We get the corner copy of Goldstein.com. I like that. Dang it. You should get to that real fast. Exactly. But you know, it's, it's, it's just fun, you know, and I also, I also have a newsletter, a weekly newsletter, isn't that busy enough? Call marketing Junto and Junto was a gathering of the hunt though, really, but I call Junto cause Hunter doesn't sound like good. So the Hunter in like, you know, Southeast Asia, that it's like,

08:14
dictators. I'm like, I don't like that. Yeah. I'm going to go with a hard J. Um, but it was Ben Franklin. So there's a little tie back to Philadelphia there. Then Franklin had the, the Junto Junto where there's a gathering of, um, intellectuals about certain something. So it's called marketing Junto. And every week I'd have, it's kind of set up like it's a, it's a like a late night talk show. Oh, okay. I have my monologue and this did not, this was not planned. None of this is planned.

08:42
I thought my ADHD brain, it doesn't plan stuff. It just does. So, you know, it starts off a monologue for about 300, 400 words. And then it goes into the latest guests, like the musical guests, which are, which is the podcast, the last two podcasts for the last week and like that Tuesday and the previous Thursday. And then it goes into some links, which is kind of like Jimmy Fallon's like, or Jay Leno's like,

09:09
holding up the newsletter, the newspaper, right? I think Yeah. And then there's the then there's the fines of the week which is like kind of Jack Hanna coming on the day show. Yeah. And then it's me signing off. Yeah. No, that's great. That's great. So I turned into a formula without me even trying. Yeah. And easily digestible. I mean, obviously, like you said, I mean, it's a formula that works for late night talk shows. There's no reason why it doesn't. And there's a reason that they're all like that. Because it was not planned. It was not planned. I don't like I like

09:39
things with segments. Yeah. Yeah. And tell my podcast is to I don't play on my podcast. And we're asked like, what are the questions? I'm like, I'm not gonna tell you the questions beforehand. But if you want to do your research, there are the same three darn questions every single episode. Just go from 15 minutes to 30 depending on how chatty you get between them. But really, it's just like, who are you? Yeah, and have three questions. And if you listen to entrepreneurs enigma, you'll know them. So yeah, absolutely.

10:08
And one of them is actually Travis's. Yeah. I'll give that, what is the most important thing we carry with you all the time? His pie deck little card fits on my desk. So I remember the exact wording every single time. That's great. That Travis. Thank you, Travis. That Travis, I swear. He's such a good guy. Yeah. So for you, when you were like, when you were growing up in Philly, what did you, I mean,

10:36
was journalism and, and, and, and entrepreneurial ship. Was that something that was always just in you? You know, it's weird. It's weird because journalism, I started my school paper in high school. Everyone's new. I was going to be a journalist. I didn't, I wanted to go into advertising, web design, into that. Went to university of Delaware, go blue hens and realize I didn't want to do accounting, I didn't want to do business school, which I wish I kind of did some business classes, didn't.

11:05
Take business class, you don't have to major in anything. Just take a few business classes. It helps. Just a little bit. But then I got into journalism because I thought, Hey, I'm going to do history. And when I did journalism, because both can show that I can write and think and all that stuff, two different writing styles. Never got an A plus on any of my A papers because I could not write as a coherent paragraph. Cause in journalism you break it up for the I's not for the actual structured paragraph. Right. So my history professors were always annoyed at my papers.

11:34
because they're all written in the journalistic style about the Civil War or about the World War II. And they're like, why can't you write it in paragraphs? And I'm like, this doesn't look right to me. Turns out that converts very well to web writing because it's meant for the eye. You break things up every two sentences, you give it an enter. Yep. Or return if you're on Mac. Yeah. Well, you know, I mean, it was called a carriage return on the typewriter. Remember those things? Oh, day yourself there, buddy. But before that, I'd always liked...

12:04
building businesses, they're still on the web that I'm sure somewhere on some free server somewhere is a bike. There's a big canal and good because from yardley from Marsville and Trenton and Bristol all the way up to Easton along the Delaware River. And I wanted to do bike tours. I was very big in the bicycling as a kid. And so I'm building a website and my mom I were going to make it into this one little business never happened. But it was like, I guess I always had the bug. Yeah.

12:30
to kind of do my own thing, get creative. I plan on ADHD because it's always like shiny objects, shiny objects, shiny objects. So what's the next shiny object? Yeah. Well, next thing objects right now is the federal reverse, you know, Macedon, pixie, you know, it's pixel fed, which is all Instagram better. That is the web three. It's not cryptocurrency. It's not the blockchain. It's a decentral, decentralizing of these big, you know,

12:57
monoliths like Facebook and Instagram and, and Reddit, which is going crashing and burning right now. So there's something called Lemmy, L E M M Y, which is a Reddit competitor that's like booming now. Everyone's leaving Reddit to go there. Everyone left Twitter to go to Maston and Planoora and there's something called Calc Key, don't like the name, don't choose these names. But I run, I actually helped admin one of the bigger instances on the Fediverse.

13:27
Masto.ai is open to everybody and it's a guacamole. Wow. I feel bad for these guys, these hourly workers if they see what they see. Cause I haven't seen that in early stuff. Some stuff I'm like, I didn't even see that. You're suspended, get out of here. Get out of here, get out of here. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. And I mean, in that, the speed, I don't know, I guess as a,

13:56
As a Gen Xer, the speed at which like the whole AI and all this stuff seems to be speeding up so fast every day. It's past Murphy's Law. It's so like- Moore's Law, Moore's Law. Yeah. It's so- It feels like Murphy's Law. Yeah. It's so scary. You know, just I guess because every movie that I saw growing up was about how our computers were going to take over. But to be honest with you, Rob, the thing is all that AI is right now, the large language models are.

14:24
It's as Rand Fishkin says, spicy auto complete. They don't take the word as the word of the gospel. Yeah. They're making shit up based on what they think you want to hear. It's good for like basic knowledge, but current events wouldn't trust it yet. It's just not there yet. It's kind of scary way. It makes up sources. Hmm. Yeah.

14:54
Well, that's not mean, but that's true. And the thing is, I think the dangerous part of it is people that do take it as gospel and people that are using it as gospel instead of doing the work or doing the research or, you know, it's like, oh, it's a tool. Yeah. And it can, all tools can like, you know, a rock was a tool, it could also be a weapon. Yeah, you're right. You can still bang someone with a head with it and hurt them. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

15:24
a very valid point. So in your, in your growing up in your, your bike business that you want to start any other businesses that stand out as an entrepreneur that you, that you had the idea for that maybe you have ideas that you have tons of ideas to do websites as a big one that happened after, after the whole journalism.

15:55
escapade of six years after college. Yeah. But like my dad has always started biotech companies like he's a microbiologist. So he starts companies and tries to find a cure to cancer. Oh, 75 and he'll never retire. He'll always joke that he'll just drop dead one day in the lab. Wow. And like, well, hopefully the clean crew will find you that day so you don't smell. He's like, that's nice. Thanks. Love you, dad. And my mom was a school psychologist.

16:23
So Jewish mother who's a psychologist, God help me, love her to death, but doting mother who also has a PhD behind her in psychology on how the brain works and has an ADHD child. That was a fun, it was a fun child. We had a blast, but I could never, I could never win an argument with that woman. To this day, I can't win an argument. She's too smart for me.

16:49
Vierver, like when you have these ideas for all your stuff, do you keep it like a journal? Do you write these ideas down or you just, they come and they go that fast? I just do them. Well, okay. I just start the idea. Okay. Halfway through the road, I'm like, and that was kind of silly. I shouldn't waste a week on this, but you know. Okay.

17:08
I was like, it's a good idea. I should, I should start turning on these ideas. I just say, no, I mean, you know, cause I'll, I mean, I have those, those ideas and I'll write them down or I'll put them in a note in my phone or something like that. But I'm gonna come back to that later. I'll come back to that later. I just didn't know how you organized it and you organize it, but you're like, let's two in the morning. You know what? I'm going to start this thing right now. It's like with mastodon, it could be self hosted. And I was like, so I was like, I, I said, I've set up my own instance of mastodon and done that.

17:37
I keep going back to the bigger instance because I feel like they can help me, I can make a bigger impact and I don't have to pay for it. So there's benefit there. Yeah. Well, I think, I know, I know for me, I think that's probably what stops me from doing a lot of the ideas is like, I don't have the money to try and do whatever that is, so I'm just going to like leave it in the book. Um, but yeah, if you've got some, well, no, I mean, it's like some of the stuff. It's practicality. And some, sometimes there's half those ideas that might sound good.

18:06
We're not that good. Exactly. You got to run them by somebody that you can trust. Run by the wife, run by the husband, you know, and say, hon, what do you think about this? What do you think of this? We're going to cash out our savings and start this thing. What do you think? Yeah, my wife humors me a little too much. And she's wonderful. I have the best wife. She's fantastic. That's great. What does she think about Entrepreneurs Enigma and your d***?

18:35
twice a week podcast and the newsletter and everything. She's like, as long as it brings business in, if it goes to me, she's fine with it. Podcasting, she gets what I'm doing with it. Newsletter, she's like, nah, you're writing, it's good for you, whatever. Right, I mean, it's like touch points of everything, every little area that you've had along your path, along your life, you know, you can get the journalistic...

19:00
it's scratch with the with the newsletter, you get the the talking the communication with the podcast. And then you've got the entrepreneur part with how can I turn these these people into you know, customers or friends that can it looks like I have a plan, Rob, it looks like I have a plan. I mean, there may actually be a plan that I subconsciously have put together that my conscious has no idea about.

19:28
And it's quite possible because like I get panic attacks every once in a while. And that's a subconscious thing, freak out. And I'm one of the few people, my psychiatrist says that I can actually tell it to the hold on, give me 15 minutes. I have to get home. Then we can continue this. And I've actually told my panic attack to hold on a second. Well, it's my kid from school, drove him home, told him to go upstairs, gave him time on the computer and then proceeded to freak the hell out. But I, everyone's like, how do you do that? I'm like, I just said, not now.

19:58
Can you say not now perpetually? I'm like, nah, I'm not gonna tell if I think I need to have it. But, and this is more a second section, but you know. Yeah. No, I get that. Yeah. That's, that's very interesting. But I also can understand that, but you know, I wouldn't necessarily, I, I have a bit of ADD and so it's like, there are times where it's like, ooh, squirrel, but also

20:25
their times is like, okay, I need to finish this thing or go to this place or do whatever before I can, you know, concentrate on before I can be a squirrel and concentrate on this other thing. So they're not cute for a metaphor for ADHD, aren't they? They really are. They're really cute squirrel moments. You know, that's based off a dog, which has petulance. You know, when you think about when they scream squirrel, it's always a dog going squirrel. And that's what I and my dog is like that. And my dog is ADHD. She's like, no, she's just a dog.

20:55
And I'm like, she's like, that's what the metaphor is based off of. I'm like, you're right. Good point. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks for that. Yeah. Thanks. So Seth, what's bringing you joy right now, man? Well, I'm right now talking to you right now, this moment in time talking to big Rob, but no, just life is good. Um, we don't live on Mars anymore, which is good. Cause at least last week, you know, at the time of this recording,

21:24
It was like Mars here and it was a Mars dust storm in New York. Yeah. So it was, it was weird. Yeah. But you know, what brings me joy right now is that I'm, I'm able to do what I want to do. I'm able to run my business. It's, it's picking up, which is nice. You know, everyone's saying, this is a recession. It's a recession. Every time someone says it's a recession, I get busier. So please keep saying recession. Cause for some reason it helps me. Yeah. But during the pandemic, I had some of my best years during the pandemic. Cause everyone's like,

21:53
We need to go online. We should have done this before. So that's something I like. I agree. 2020 was great for me. And as a matter of fact, I've never, knock wood, gotten COVID. I'm one of those rare people. I've never gotten it. My wife hasn't gotten it. My kid got it. Was in the house with it. Was quarantined for five days and he was fine. He was on the computer, happy as a clam. That's great. He had the sniffles. He had very, he had Omicron.

22:20
You missed a week of camp, which she was bummed about. But other than that, like even with a kid in the house with Omicron, which is the most more viral of the loads, I ain't get it.

22:36
All right, so this is the second segment of the show. We talked more about you dive a little bit more into your mental health journey. We all have those same days, whether we're admitted or not, or we've been diagnosed with depression or anything like sometimes you just have depressing days, you just you just don't want to do anything. And for you, how do you keep the darkness at bay?

23:05
blah. Yeah. I have a cup of a really high caffeinated tea. And it's the start of my day. I mean, cause I'm lucky, lucky enough that I don't have clinical depression. You're gonna have clinical other stuff going on in my brain. I don't need one more thing. I mean, you should see the pills I have to take just cause you know, the ADHD, get the brain pills. I've got diabetes. I got the diabetes pills. Can't do that. Can't do that. Um, what's the guy that's diabetes? Diabetes, Wilson Brantley.

23:34
Yeah, him him. Yeah, I can't do that. But so I have those pills. I've got the cholesterol. You know, I'm 42 but like you look at my pills. It looks like I'm like 62. I feel like I'm 32. So God, what you got to help me I'm good. But you know, mental health wise, I mean, I got anxiety, I got the panic attacks that hit every once in a while. I've got the ADHD, which is interesting because I have always been kind of in tune. And I'd look at my kid who has it is 10.

24:01
He's kind of in tune with like his brain and how it operates. So I, it's not good, but I can, I can sort of the issue of superpower. If you get, I consider it almost like Cyclops from the X-Men with his glasses on. He can direct the laser. When he kicks him off, it goes all over the damn place. And it's sort of how I feel without my, without my Vyvanse is that like, if I don't have that in me, I'm like, uh, squirrel.

24:31
all over the place, you know, and then like, you know, things I'm as an alcohol, I'm a list of drugs. I don't care that the Alexa pro that thing is nasty. You don't make you miss a pill. You feel off. Wow. But if you're on it, you don't have anxiety, which is kind of nice. So trade-offs. Yeah, it is. So I've done it by my ADHD since I was a child. Yeah. Only recently, like within the last two years rise that a lot of my ADHD was actually anxiety.

25:00
A lot of social oftenness was anxiety of like, oh, I'm going to lose my thought. Oh, I'm going to. You know, like something's going to happen. I can't forget to work faster. So I'm going to speed and get a car accident. You know, that kind of stuff. That was all anxiety. And you know, that brought on with all the journalism stuff. Cause you know, in a journalist, you see some gnarly stuff. So dead body at cornfield. I ran after a combine in a suit.

25:29
Ruin pair of shoes walked into my editor's office and dropped him on his desk and dust went everywhere his papers went everywhere I said you're buying me a pair of Clark's, but he's like what? Like you don't pay me enough to buy new pairs of shoes I just ruined them going after a story for you. He bought me that pair of shoes So I have fun stories for being a journalist I mean I I sounds I sat in the center of route 15 out in Gettysburg as he extracted a dump truck from a ravine And then so promptly saw the guys arm fall out of the cab. Yeah

25:58
Like bad stuff. So for the law I still to this day can't watch Chicago fire But I can't watch Chicago PD because I never saw murder That was in South Central, Pennsylvania, or I was in Bucks County Not much murder Mostly people wrapping themselves around telephone poles Driving too fast, which ironically I would go to these accident scenes So you have to get the pictures before they took the person away and helicopter and I would go really fast

26:26
doing exactly what they did to get into a car accident. So I irony there. Yeah. Just a touch. A little, a little Alain Asmar set for us, which half that song is not ironic. You know, it's really not. It's really, it's a good song, but I was like, that's not ironic. It's more like, doesn't that suck? It's, it's, it's not necessarily ironic. No, it's just like, you know, rains on your wedding day. I'm like,

26:53
That's what's ironic about that. That's actually good luck. It's not good luck actually. Some people say it's good luck. Some people say it's good luck for it to rain on your wedding day. There's a it's funny. There's a wet there's a jewelry company here in town and they run a promotion. If you buy your wedding set, you know, wedding bands from them and it rains on your wedding day. They pay for your wedding.

27:17
They pay for your wedding bands. They pay for the rings and stuff. Not for the whole wedding. No, no, they pay for your wedding bands and stuff like that. Oh my God, that's amazing. Yeah, no, no, no. So it's like it has to rain. Does it rain that much? I guess it does. It's not as much as Florida. No, no, not as much as Florida. I mean, we have, it's been kind of a wet first few months down here. It's not been one up here. We had no snow in Philly this year. That's just weird to me. My poor dog has never experienced snow yet.

27:47
I think she loves the rain for some strange reasons. So she'd love this now. That's funny. Yeah.

27:55
So when you're having those times and you if you're away from, um, you know, you're obviously you're going to, if you're away from caffeine and you can't start your day that way, um, and you can't grab your bottle of pills or whatever, you have something else you use to, to try and regulate. I don't know about it. If I don't know that I don't have my five ants in me. Okay. The, the what's it what.

28:23
The placebo kicks in for a while. Okay. Which is very bizarre, but it kicks in and I can do work that I enjoy. And if it's something that I have to, if I have to fold the laundry, that is not going to happen. It's hard enough with my medicine to me for that to happen. But like, I will notice, you know, that I can, I can usually start the day, get the day started, have my cup of caffeine and get going. I mean, yeah, there are those depressing days. There's these days when like the money like.

28:50
I kind of just laughed and you're like, Oh crap, I got to go replace $3,000 a month or whatever the heck it is. And that's getting, you get that pit in your stomach and you feel like, I mean, I mean, luckily for me, it never crosses my mind. I like let's end it all. I mean, I'm fortunate that that's not, I mean, crazy crap goes through my head all the time. That doesn't. Yeah. But I still feel, I still fight shit. Yeah.

29:14
And I think, like you just said, the fact that you have all of these ideas and things running through your head anyway, it's almost like there's not enough time for that other stuff to seep in and sink in. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's always going. Yeah. It's amazing I sleep. I sleep like a baby. Literally because my brain doesn't stop all day long. So literally when I'm in bed, I'm like, I'm ready for bed. My brain turns off. That's the weirdest dream.

29:44
Yeah. I've been in a lot of that's because of the medicine. Okay. It gives you weird dreams. I have that you don't remember though. You just remember that was a weird one and you remember for five seconds and then it goes out the hell, your ear and I'm like, Oh, I wish you'd written that one down. Some people can remember their dreams. And it's awesome. Like the real weird ones. I severed her Dolly ask dreams and I know I have those. I just don't remember.

30:13
why or what or who kind of things. Yeah, yeah. I know I usually will have weird dreams. I can remember them for quite a while. All depends on how traumatic I guess it is. Because I mean, sometimes it's like, I always tell folks when they, you hear that, teamwork makes the dream work, that kind of stuff. I'm like, well, don't forget that nightmares are also dreams. So. Right. Yes. Sometimes. It's a little weird, some of the nightmares I remember.

30:41
I remember remembering them for a little while. They're just weird. I used to have these dreams that like the person would just repeat themselves over and over again, like one word over, it gets stuck on a repeat. What? As a kid. And those would freak the fuck out of me. Wow. Oh, I wake up screaming. My mom would come running in. She'd say, what's wrong, hon? I'm like, I had a repeating dream again. She's like, those are the weirdest dreams. Cause they're not scary. They're just like bizarre. Yeah. It's so intrepid and got stuck in the needle and the record player.

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Yes, I'm old enough to remember record players. And they're not hit now. It's just over and over again. Wow. That is weird. Yeah, it's weird. That's the ones I remember. I remember those beings very traumatic from a childhood. Haven't had any of them recently. Well, that's good. It still bothers me when my kid's trying to be annoying, and he starts repeating himself over and over again. I'm like, please don't do that. That's what I'm saying. Did you tell him your weakness? Don't let him know your weakness. It's like curtain night. Don't tell him. Don't let him know your weakness.

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It'd be like daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy, daddy. It's just very does that. So that one's okay. That worked out. And that one kind of wore off after a while.

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All right, so this is the third segment of the show. This is time now for the fast. This time now for the fast. I love how you sort of not record that and do it live every time. Every time. I love that. Every time. Well, I keep, I keep thinking, maybe I'll think of something better. And I love it. It's so Rob. I love it. Oh, it's so jolly. I love it. Well, the fast five is powered by pod decks.

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Yeah, I wish I'd known I always just curate some I should have I should ask you one of your own questions. Dang it It's gonna be too complex. It's gonna be too convoluted to try and get to your question now because I got this stuff There we go. There we go. All right. Well, here we go. This is question number one

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All right, would you rather have to face, I almost read this, so I'm a little dyslexic. So I almost read, would you rather have a fork in your face? That's not the question. Or a fork in the face or what? No, no, the question is, would you rather have to face a fork in the road or be forced to pick between three doors? Well, I like the other one better. Fork in your face. Fork in your face or fork on the road, I think.

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Yeah. I just think it makes sense. So you pick one, go that way. And that kind of sucked. All right. Well, next time, next work, I'll go the other direction. It's an all in the venture. That's it. You know, life, you can't say what, what if, yeah, you say, well, what if I did that? And then when you didn't do it, you get a chance to do it differently. If you don't, you know, do a little learning and then to try it, try, try again next time. Yeah. I love it. Right. Question number two.

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Ooh, would you ever pick up a hitchhiker? No. No? No. Not in this day and age? Not in this day and age. I don't care if they look innocent, sweet, innocent. That probably would be my end. Yeah, yeah. You're just gonna pick up. Yeah, it's not the 60s. Yeah, I got you. I don't, you know, and there are times when I'm driving down the road and I'm like, maybe I should, and then I'm like, no, I have somewhere to be. I am.

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I am not going that direction. I'm turning around right now and going the other way. I haven't seen a hitchhiker in a while actually. We have them. I haven't seen them very often. Maybe they're more in the south. Yeah, I mean, we have several of them that I'll see. Like, you know, it could be the same guy. Maybe he's just working the same both sides of the road or something. I don't know. Maybe that's the that's the whole reason. He's working both sides of the road. All right, question number three.

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Would you rather accidentally laugh loudly at a funeral or fart while giving a speech at a wedding? Oh laugh loudly at a funeral. Oh god It's been my worst nightmare laying one loose at a wedding really Well during a speech at a wedding no doubt everyone's watching. Yeah. Yeah laughing loudly Maybe maybe they said something funny. Maybe it was a taylor swift Do you see a recent taylor swift one where she says that they laugh at it's not her thing laugh at a funeral

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No, that's bare-necked ladies. I don't know why I got to laugh at her funeral. Yeah, they look very similar. Oh, very versatile. Yeah. Although, I mean, it's like you would think you could probably play off laughing at a funeral a lot easier because, oh, maybe someone told a story about the departed that may or you remembered something fondly of them and it made you laugh. You had a, you know, an inside joke with them or something like that. Or a bit of insanity at one moment of grief. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You can shrug that off pretty easily.

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Right. Whereas if you just kind of like, and, and John, I think you're the best for her ever. Don't come here. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they don't usually, uh, video funerals a whole lot. Exactly. It's a little safer. Maybe for a funeral, maybe they can give me a eulogy and farting. That's different. It's like some, it's a gas is escaping from the body.

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That's what they say, right? It's them. It's his book. Question number four.

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Is there a Guinness world record you think you could break? Hmm. How many scroll moments I could have in one moment. If they actually kept track, if they, if they could have a clicker, if they could keep track of how many scroll moments I have at any given moment. Cause even with them as in me, I'm like, Oh, it's always like, Oh, something comes across my screen. I'm like, Oh, I should scroll scroll scroll scroll. Look, I'm able to pull back in, but then like three seconds later, there's another scroll moment. And every once in a while, the scroll moments are actually serendipity. Yeah.

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And it takes me down a rabbit hole more in that more weird English. More varmints. Yeah. More varmints, more rodents. Yeah. And go down that rabbit hole and it turns out to be something really good for the project I'm working on. So. Well, so the squirrels aren't always bad. They're not always bad. They're awfully cute. They're our bunnies. So it's only the squirrels that are friends with bunnies that are the good ones. Absolutely. It's awesome. Okay, question number five.

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Is there one thing that you'd be really disappointed if you never got to experience it? Hmm. That's a good one. Never got to experience it. I mean, I've been to Italy, I've traveled, traveled a lot, but I think I wouldn't get to California at some point. I've never, I've the furthest West I've gotten is Wyoming. And I'd be kind of bummed if I never make it to California. Okay. I mean, I bid the Capri for crying out loud, but I haven't been to California yet. So.

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Okay. Well, I've spent a plenty of time. So I'm like, next time we need to go. Like, like, I just feel like that'd be kind of cool. Japan would be kind of fun. Something travel related. Like I want to go something, go someplace weird. Australia sounds cool. Yeah. Gosh. So weird things and nightmare fuel and Australia has like all of the nightmare fuel animals and they're kind of Jersey though. I can say that cause I'm literally like 30 minutes from Jersey.

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Jersey is a Jersey devil for crying out loud. What is that? The New Jersey devils is a hockey team, but they have this like this weird looking up after the show, but it's like look it up on Wikipedia. It's this monster that lives in the pine Barrens really. And it's chickens. Oh wow. Is it another road? Jersey's weird. What's that? Is it another rodent? No, it's definitely not. I don't know what it is, but it's supposedly it's a Southern Tennessee devil.

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Oh, the whole book on weird New Jersey. Okay. Jersey's strange. Okay. I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to look up the Jersey. Jersey devil. Yeah. Okay. Wow. But we're going to get you this face. We're going to get you to California though. We're going to get you to California. So that you're not just, you're not disappointed about never getting to California. Well, Seth, that's it. That's question five. That is our fast five. And that's the show. Thank you so much for being here, man.

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Oh, this has been so much fun. Yeah. This is an hour flew by everyone says, Oh, it's going to be an hour. If my podcast lasts around 20 minutes, I'm like done. Yeah. But like I've been on most, most podcasts are run out hour. And I'm like, Oh, that's gonna be long. This has been a blast. But also Rob. Well, I appreciate that. Uh, if folks want to keep up with you and what you've got going on with it, be a entrepreneur enigma and all the other cool stuff that you do have going on, uh, what's the best way we can keep up with you.

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Well, you can always find me on LinkedIn, Seth M Goldstein. You can find me at Goldstein media and find me at entrepreneurs enigma.com.

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And honestly, if you find me one of those, you can usually find me everywhere else as well. Okay. Search for Seth M Goldstein as Michael. Seth Michael Goldstein said I'm Goldstein in Google. I'll come up search for Seth Goldstein. There's a lot of other stuff. Goldstein's are more popular than I am. Imagine that. But not any more popular as Seth Michael Goldstein's or Seth M Goldstein's. Seth M Goldstein's. It's me and a lawyer in Brooklyn. Okay. Wow. And you're so close together. That how odd. I know it's real weird. Well,

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that I put those links in the show notes again. Seth, thank you so much for being here buddy. I really do appreciate it. It's good connecting with you man. This is great. Awesome my friend and congratulations on being number five in the world for crying out loud. Thank you. He's only going to go up from here after this. I tell you that. Oh jeez. If it doesn't go down that'd be really embarrassing. No, not at all. Not at all. Thank you again Seth. Anytime. And if you would like to support this podcast, I would appreciate it if you bought me a coffee at ChewingTheFatBR.com.

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Until next time, I look forward to the chance we have to sip a spell and chew the fat.


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Seth Goldstein

Podcaster, Digital Marketer

Once an ink-stained newshound, Seth has reinvented himself as a pioneering digital marketer and insightful podcast host.

Cutting his teeth in the bustling newsrooms of Pennsylvania and New Jersey, his journalistic acumen and relentless curiosity served him well in the frenetic world of newspapers.

In 2008, amidst an existential burnout, Seth swapped his notepad for a business blueprint and dived headlong into the dynamic realm of digital marketing.
What initially began as a strategic pivot to secure employment, unexpectedly blossomed into a thriving venture that has been going strong for over a decade and a half.

Seth's journey, punctuated by soaring peaks and challenging valleys, is a testament to his entrepreneurial grit and unwavering commitment to his craft.

As the charismatic host of the much-loved podcast, “Entrepreneur's Enigma,” Seth weaves tales of his adventures in business, while also spotlighting the experiences of other trailblazing entrepreneurs.

The podcast, lauded for its candid discussions and meaningful insights, serves as a lighthouse for aspiring business mavericks.

Beyond the whirlwind of work, Seth loves spending quality time with his loving wife, their spirited son, and their charming and lovable Airedoodle, Olive.

Balancing his professional fervor with a rich personal life, Seth is a testament to the thrilling possibilities that emerge when one takes their life into their own hands.