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Knock knock knock.
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Remember, you're a creative person.
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You gotta do something.
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Welcome to another episode of Chewing the Fat.
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I am your host, Big Robb.
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It allows us to help tell those beautiful, messy human stories.
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Another beautiful, messy human calling in today from Boston Mass.
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It's Mike Previti.
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Mike.
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Hey, Robb.
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Thanks for having me, my friend.
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Good to be here.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much for uh for agreeing to be here.
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Um as I've taken my journey into doing voice acting full-time, I I see Mike all over the place.
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Uh because that's this that's a great thing about this community, is it's uh it's pretty welcoming, it's pretty friendly, and uh, you know, you kind of uh you kind of you kind of find your your tribe and your your little group in there.
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So uh I I appreciate you being here and being as kind as you are, not just to me, but to to everyone in this uh in this industry.
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Um Mike, you're up in the Boston area.
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You uh are you from Boston natively?
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I I am.
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I'm from a a town called Medford, is where I grew up.
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Medford Mass.
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And um we've you know moved around over the years, and I I live in a town called Reading Mass right now with my wife and my two girls.
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And yeah, been here my whole life.
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Been here my whole life.
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And um yeah, I don't love the snow right now, so I'm not a big fan of that part of living in New England.
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But um we got like two feet of snow the other day.
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And uh, you know, but we're kind of used to it at this point.
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But yeah, so that's that's where I am.
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Awesome.
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So when you growing up in uh Medford and in that area, yeah.
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Are you um was was acting and and performing, is that something that you always were in, or is it just kind of like like uh you we're around the same age that we still remember, you know, Saturday morning cartoons.
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Was that kind of an impetus to getting into voice acting for you?
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Or something like that.
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I mean, that was definitely no.
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It was kind of everything.
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So so when I was young, my dad had watched uh Turner Classic movies uh all the time.
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That was his like thing, you know.
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And so I was just kind of like forced to watch these movies and these shows or whatever, and and you know, of course, Saturday morning cartoons and cartoons when I got home from school and and everything like that.
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And and that just kind of at a really young age, maybe around, I don't know, nine or ten, I kind of had this thing where I knew I wanted to do that, and I didn't know what that really was.
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I just knew I wanted to be a part of it, whether it was the cartoon space or the movie space.
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And so at a really young age, um, I just I started really kind of fixating on like what do I do?
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And you know, when I'm young, like how do how do I do this thing somewhere along the way?
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I don't know when, but I kind of realized or I knew I heard somewhere that getting an agent is a good idea.
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Okay.
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I don't know where I heard it or whatever, but I remember begging my dad to look for an agent for me.
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And, you know, he thought it was a phase.
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I mean, he, you know, I kind of loved playing around when I was a kid and and cops and robbers and doing all that stuff and make-believe like a lot of other kids do.
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And and um, so I think he thought it was a phase.
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And I would call him at work every single day and I would say, Did you did you look for an agent for me today?
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And I was like, you know, maybe 11 at the time or something.
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And he was like, What is happening?
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So this is when the yellow pages were around.
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And so so he was like, you know what?
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I'm just gonna look, and the first thing I find, if I find something, I'll call and that'll be it, and we'll it'll be over, and I'll tell him that I looked, but nothing happened.
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So he opened the yellow pages, and there was a, you know, right under B in the yellow pages, there was an agency called the Boston Agency, and it said like modeling and acting or whatever.
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And so he called and he said, Listen, I have a, you know, 11-year-old that is interested in in possibly, you know, getting into the business.
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And they said, you know what?
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As a matter of fact, we are currently looking for kids right now.
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So my father almost fell over and was like, oh my gosh, I can't even.
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So we went there for an interview and um, and they, you know, they said that they I thought they thought I would be really good for the agency.
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So I signed on with them and, you know, started doing some on-camera commercials and things like that.
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And um, so I I I, you know, and I was like, I've made it like I'm in, you know, an 11-year-old saying like, oh my god, this is it.
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This is, you know, and um little did I know there would be decades of of those kind of things uh after that.
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But um, but yeah, and then the music bug, I I kind of caught the music bug.
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I had been taking drum lessons from the time I was about 10 years old.
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And then when I was around, so I was doing some on-camera stuff and other things for the agency.
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When I was around 15, the music bug hit really hard, and I got into my first band in high school.
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And um I forgot about acting uh for a while at that point.
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And then so for years after that, I was a singer-songwriter for years and years.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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And so that's kind of, but that's really, you know, how everything started when I was that young.
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So yeah, I was pretty young.
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That's amazing.
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That's amazing.
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Yeah, and I can I can imagine your dad like, I can't catch a break.
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There's actually an agent, and you know what I mean?
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He couldn't believe it.
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And then he couldn't believe it when they said, you know, yeah, we we would love to have you.
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He was like, what's going on?
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That's awesome.
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So yeah.
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So it was it was something that's kind of, I think, when you're in the arts, I think it's something that's kind of in you.
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It's either in you or it's not like you and it's one of those things that, you know, I've just needed to do my entire life.
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I've just needed to do it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, there's there's something that's, you know, and I and I tell this to a lot of people.
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It's like and everybody has a story to tell, you know what I mean?
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And and I think if there's something that's inside you that you need to get out, you need to get it out.
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You know what I mean?
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Uh whether it's some sort of performance, a song, writing a song, a poem, a piece of art, a scribble, whatever it is, uh performing on stage.
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Uh I mean, I think there's something that, you know, once that's that's in you, you want to share it.
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It's not necessarily you know what I mean?
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It's it's like you have to get it out, or else it feels like it's just like there's something bubbling under the surface and it becomes kind of physically uncomfortable, you know.
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No, it's true.
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I mean, there was there was a a time in my life not too long ago where I I had been doing music for so long and I stopped it because I it really wasn't getting me where I wanted to go with it.
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And after years, I was like, you know, I think I'm kind of like done.
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And and this is pre-voice over.
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But I said, I think I'm kind of done.
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And I spent a lot of years um not doing anything creative.
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I just I stopped that.
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I was like, I'm sick of chasing it, I'm sick of doing that.
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I said, I'm just gonna concentrate on my family and and my job, you know, my nine to five.
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And so I did that, but you can only do that for so long until it starts creeping up again, and you're like, no, hey, knock, knock, knock.
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Remember, you're a creative person, you gotta do something.
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And and that's kind of what what um was the beginning of my voiceover career.
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But um so yeah, it's if it's in you, it's in ya.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So what uh what type of arc did your music career take?
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What were you what were you uh what type of music were you were you into?
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Was it jazz, experimental, punk, or something?
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It was a lot of screen.
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Right.
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So it was like 80s, you know, hair metal and hard rock stuff, and you know, um, and I, you know, and so that was kind of like when I was in my first bands, it was a lot of like cover band stuff.
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And and then when I started writing original music, it was it was kind of on the rock pop type of you know, genre.
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And, you know, did a lot of, I mean, I've written a ton of songs over the years, and you know, I've I've kind of had a lot of close calls where like oh you know, it almost happened and then it didn't happen.
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And that's just the nature of the business, you know?
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Yeah.
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And so, um, so yeah, so I was doing, you know, I was writing and it was under my name, and I had a backing band.
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And but sometimes I would travel and I would just play acoustic shows.
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I'd go to LA or I'd go to Nashville and I'd go to New York a lot and play.
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And um, I had a record deal at one point, and it was a really crappy one.
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Um and I had to sue my record company to get the rights to my record back, I remember.
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That was like a great experience.
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Oh yeah, it did.
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Um but no, it was, you know, but and I've written with a lot of great people over the years and stuff.
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So it was uh it was definitely it it taught me a lot, and little did I know, it was kind of preparing me for voiceover in a lot of ways.
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Um, because it's it's very parallel, you know, when you're a a a musician and then you're you become a voice actor, there's a lot of similarities.
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Um so I learned a lot from the the years that I was a singer-songwriter and had a lot of great experiences and kind of learned how to market myself and learn how to deal with people in the entertainment industry, which is what you got to do as a voice actor as well.
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And so so yeah, yeah, it kind of prepared me from where I'm uh I'm at now.
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I mean, I would I don't regret a a single thing.
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Yeah.
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That's awesome.
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That's awesome.
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So a as as often happens on this show, as I get sidetracked by interesting things, my guests say.
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So is is this you?
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Is this you is extraordinary?
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Is that your album?
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That is me.
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Yep.
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Extraordinary by Mike.
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Yeah, that was that was a long time ago.
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2006.
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And then I had another one in 2008, which was uh just a six-song EP that I had done with um produced with uh Anthony Resta, who is uh uh he's out in LA now, he's been out in LA for years, but Anthony's produced Elton John and and Duran Duran and Nuno Betancourt, and you know, just a a lot of a lot of people.
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And I did the 2008 one with him, and that was great.
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And yeah, Extraordinary was the one when I got when I got signed.
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I that was the the album that came out.
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And um Yeah, yeah.
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So it was an experience, man.
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It was it was definitely it was great in a lot of ways.
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That's really cool.
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That's really cool.
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Do you and I and I asked this before I put a link to it or anything like that.
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Do you still get a little residuals on that those fractional pennies?
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I mean, every once in a while, like I'm with ASCAP, so every once in a while I'll get a check, you know, maybe a couple hundred bucks.
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And and I and sometimes I look at it and I go, wow, this is you know, these songs are being played in Shanghai, and I had no idea.
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You know what I mean?
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So so every once in a while I'll see those.
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But um yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that's cool.
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You'll you'll get a few more fractional cents.
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Well, I'll I'll I'll put a link up and you'll get fractional cents later.
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It's funny, it's funny.
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I had uh because I've got a an an album out of just like electronics that I had made and put out.
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And uh I get the the the iTunes report comes in every week, like where it's been put.
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And then one week it was like in Tokyo.
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It was all from Tokyo, and it was like I was like this gotta listen to like, you know, it was 28 times, I think.
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That's kind of the beauty though about music nowadays is that you can there's a lot of opportunity for you to put your songs everywhere.
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And the way that people are consuming entertainment and art nowadays is so different than it used to be.
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You know, I mean, half of these bands and songwriters and you know, singers, whatever, like on TikTok will have a career before they actually need a record company to come in.
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Maybe they'll never even need a record company to come in.
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So won't have to suffer the bad contract, you know.
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Yeah.
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So it's just different now, but it's but it's awesome.
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I love it.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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But that you know, but that's the thing, even like with with what we do as uh voice actors and stuff, you know, it's a lot of auditioning, it's a lot of putting stuff.
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I don't want to call it throwing spaghetti against the wall, but it's a lot of auditioning.
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You just hoping that you're connecting with the source material and that the right ears hear you.
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Because you could connect.
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And if it had been a different casting director, you would have gotten the never know.
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Yeah, you just never know.
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You just have to be true to yourself and put your yourself out in it and and then let it do what it's do gonna do and then move on to the next.
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That's how you have to do it.
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And it's not easy.
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It's hard.
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It's hard to kind of have the mindset that you need to have to just continue to move on with no with no real feedback from the auditions that you're sending in, you know?
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Yep.
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Yep.
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It's it's uh I think that's one of the Because that as artists and creatives, I think we we well, one, we crave the feedback, good, bad, or otherwise, because then we can make a different choice.
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So we could, you know, adjust uh a performance or whatever.
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But I think even in that, if you get too much feedback, then you're becoming untrue to who you are and how you would naturally approach something, which is then not going to be what you needed to be for the next thing or whatever.
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Yeah, it gets in your head too much, and that's when you start second guessing, and it's uh and you know, been there, done that, right?
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We all have.
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It's um it can it can mess with you a little bit, but and that type of like advice and stuff like that, that's kind of what you're offering now uh in your hold your hand.
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Oh that VO hand holding, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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V VO hand holding kind of realm.
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Um again, that that kind uh you know, nurturing nature that you have.
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Um what what is uh VO hand holding all about?
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So VO hand holding came up because I I've been asked for maybe the last year and a half, off and on, like if I coach, would I coach, blah, blah, blah.
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And I just don't I never wanted to be a coach.
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I never, you know, maybe years down the line, that's something that I would want to do.
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But I I just I'm I feel like I'm continuing to build my business and I'm not where I want to be yet as a voice actor.
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So, but what I did realize was so I was like, well, I don't want to coach.
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And I would explain that to a couple of friends of mine.
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They're like, but you're doing it already.
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You're on social media and you're all already doing this stuff.
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And I'm like, yeah, but it's it's more throwing out my opinion based on kind of my career and what I'm going through at the time.
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And yeah, I'll share.
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This is my advice, this is my opinion, but I'm not gonna coach somebody on their reads.
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Like, I'm not, I don't want to do that.
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There's plenty of really great coaches out there.
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The world does not need another voiceover coach as far as I'm concerned.
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There's too many out there to begin with.
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Um, a lot of people call themselves coaches and aren't really coaches, but that's a whole other podcast.
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But um, but you know, so I was trying to think, I'm like, well, you know, is there something because I I would have people get in touch with me, DM me on social media and say, can I have your opinion on this?
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Or do you mind if we do this?
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And I've gotten on Zoom calls with people and and kind of just answered questions, you know, really simple stuff.
00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:44.639
But things that you don't, as a newer voice actor, even if you're like a year or two years new, it you don't know until you know.
00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.240
Like you don't know what you're gonna run into until it happens.
00:16:48.240 --> 00:17:10.319
So I was like, well, maybe that's what I can kind of do is just if if voice actors are interested, you know, just kind of having access to somebody Monday through Friday during business hours to just pick up the phone or get on a Zoom call and say, I got this question about this, like keep me on the phone for five minutes, keep me on the phone for an hour.
00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.960
Maybe that's where I can help, you know, just kind of the nuts and bolts of things.
00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:24.079
Um so I said, Well, you know, let me let me see if I throw it out there, if if it's worth doing, you know.
00:17:24.079 --> 00:17:28.480
And um, and people have been responding very positively uh to it.
00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:35.920
So um, so yeah, it's just kind of helping people with the stuff that, you know, you don't know until you know, kind of thing.
00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:44.799
You know, just about the business, about growing, about, you know, going, going left instead of right, like and why and all those types of things.
00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.720
So so yeah, that's kind of what it is, VO hand holding.
00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:50.319
I love that.
00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:50.880
I love that.
00:17:50.880 --> 00:18:06.319
And you're right, because there's so many parts of this that like I am still discovering and and that it is as much as it is about performance and this, that, and the other, and your acting skill, there's also you're your own business owner.
00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:16.799
And I think that was one of the most eye-opening parts of it, is like I was not prepared to uh, you know, to be like the head of a company.
00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:17.359
Yeah.
00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:18.240
You know what I mean?
00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:18.640
Sure.
00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.440
You know, I was not prepared to be the CEO.
00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:22.160
Yep.
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Uh you know, and so I think those are the lessons um that I am like still learning uh as we go along.
00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:30.559
Yeah.
00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:49.119
And I think that that's probably one of the biggest things that people run into, or the reason why people stop doing it is because, you know, we've all seen the the social media post out there about you can make $500 a day in your pajamas and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:49.599
Yes.
00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:51.440
And it's it's a bunch of crap.
00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.160
I mean, yeah, can you ultimately make really good money in this business?
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Absolutely.
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There's no doubt about it.
00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:05.279
But it's like you said, Rob, it's running a business, it's building a business, and that is not an easy task.
00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:14.640
They say it takes three to five years in a new business just to get to a point where you, you know, maybe start to make money.
00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:22.400
And and so it's just one of those things where I think a lot of people leave because they realize after a while it's a lot of work.
00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:24.079
You mean it's not just talking.
00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:25.279
Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Oh, and those posts aggravate the crap out of me.
00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:30.640
Oh, that they infuriate me.
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They infuriate me.
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But people listen to it, those those predatory type people are then making money on other people's naivety.
00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:40.960
That's right.
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And then the people that are in it are the ones that are getting hurt by it.
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Yeah.
00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:56.640
And and it is and it is also at the same time um devaluing what it takes to do it by saying that it is so simplistic.
00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:57.359
J That's right.
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That's right.
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And then people realize that it's not, because I mean, you know, gosh, I mean, you know, Rob, between marketing and auditioning and and invoicing and trying to build-I mean, just marketing, and and I talk a lot about it, but marketing is like it's a beast.
00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:20.880
And it's just the research side of that, to find the right pe you know we talk about the right ears, you know, the right ears to land in.
00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.799
It's like, well, here's a pool of possible, possible right ears.
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And they may not be the actual right ears.
00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:28.000
That's right.
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Yeah.
00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:44.079
It's it's a it's it's throw it is throwing a lot against the wall to see what sticks, but at the same time, as far as the kind of the marketing yourself as a business goes, it's like really trying to figure out what's working and what's not.
00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:52.880
So you're constantly re-evaluating and revising the structure of how you're doing things because maybe this worked, but this didn't.
00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:53.920
So you're taking this away.
00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:58.960
I mean, so again, it's a business and and running any business is difficult.
00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:09.200
Um and you know, it's just uh it's it's not an easy gig, but it's a great gig if you can get you know, it's great.
00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:17.440
I was gonna say on the flip side of that, it it can be incredibly rewarding when you work on a project that you really resonate with.
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:18.319
Yeah.
00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:25.599
Um it can be like, well, that may not have been the biggest paycheck I've ever got, but man, that was some good work I got to be a part of.
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:27.440
The work is what it's all about.
00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:28.079
I agree.
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It's just doing good work and feeling like you're contributing and and feeling like that part of you that needs to do it is getting fulfilled as well.
00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:40.640
And yeah, we all need to pay bills, I mean, obviously.
00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:46.480
Um, but it's it is, you know, doing good work is just so fulfilling.
00:21:46.480 --> 00:21:51.359
And um and it can be lucrative, it can be very lucrative um as well.
00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:54.559
But it's just you just gotta put the time in.
00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.119
You really do, you know, if you want to get there.
00:21:57.759 --> 00:21:57.920
Yeah.
00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:03.039
Is there a Project that comes to mind when you're thinking about that fulfilling work.
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:06.079
You know, obviously nothing that's behind an NDA still or anything like that.
00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:06.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:21.440
Um you know, I love I am a, you know, and sounds kind of silly because it's animation, but I'm a big fan of animated series and animated anything.
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:27.920
Um just and that goes back to the Saturday morning cartoons and and after school watching, you know.
00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:38.880
So uh when I I I love animated series that, you know, I I I always get pretty fulfilled just because I'm kind of goofy as it is.
00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:44.559
So being able to have that come out in any sort of animated character is always fun.
00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.119
Um, that's kind of fulfilling to me.
00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:57.680
Um I will let me see, another one that comes to mind is um I just I just did a um a few months, was it a few months back or was it Mindy?
00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:58.960
I can't even remember.
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:03.920
But there's a show called uh Tuttle Twins, that's an animated series.
00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:04.640
Yeah.
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And I um I just I love the the message, the messaging of that show.
00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:18.079
Um and it's it's it's a teaching platform really, teaches kids about history and things like that.
00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:27.519
And and um I had been auditioning for that show for three years before I got booked for um that show.
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:36.240
And so I I I, you know, that was very fulfilling because again, I'd been auditioning for different characters for so long, and I finally got booked, and that was good.
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:49.839
And um I think the last one that I guess I could think of was Um I got a so the The Chosen is one of my favorite shows for anybody that knows that series.
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:50.799
Yeah.
00:23:50.799 --> 00:24:18.880
And I love The Chosen, and um and I actually got hired to narrate a they they were having this fundraiser, and I didn't even know what it was when I got hired for it, but they were having a fundraiser like the the actual movie studio, Angel Studios or the production company were having, I guess they have one fundraiser for the the series every year, and it was like their main thing.
00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:41.200
And um, and I got hired to narrate the story of how The Chosen came to be, and they played it live at this huge thing that they were having for the series, and um that was pretty fulfilling for me just because I had I loved the series, you know, and and um so yeah, so things like that, you know, things like that.
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:52.559
But I mean, I think any job that you get, any project that you're booked is kind of fulfilling because you're like, okay, I auditioned and there was 400 other people that auditioned, and I got it.
00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.279
Like, so that's kind of fulfilling in and of itself, you know.
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:56.079
Y
00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:16.000
Okay.
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:16.400
Okay.
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:20.559
Well, do you have a genre that is just that you just really absolutely love it?
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.680
Well, animation is definitely, and I know a lot of people love animation.
00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:24.559
I mean, it's fun.
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:32.559
It's, you know, um I mean the things I get booked in the the most are like commercial and animation.
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.480
And I've done some video games as well.
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.920
I've done video game work.
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:40.160
Um is there something that you want to do that you've not gotten booked in yet?
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.440
A genre that you're that's kind of like, man, I would love to do that.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:58.960
I would love to do promo, but specific to, and I know a lot of people want to do promo, but but mine is very specific to Disney Jr., Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., those type of promos.
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:06.160
I I I uh recorded a promo demo specific to that, like kids' promo genre.
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:06.480
Yeah.
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:12.400
Just because, you know, my voice print is very young sounding, and I'm not very young.
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:17.119
So but I but I I'm lucky that I have kind of a younger sounding voice.
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.480
So um so it just kind of works for that.
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:26.160
So that's a genre that I would love to be able to explore more.
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:32.880
But the funny thing is, I mean, you know, the agents that I have don't really do a lot in promo.
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.960
There, there are very few agents that do a lot of promo nowadays.
00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:42.079
Um but that's that's I would love that, like Nick Jr., that type of thing, you know.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.279
Um so I, you know, that's something that I would love to do.
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:51.279
Yeah, I I definitely could hear your voice doing doing those type of promos and things like that.
00:27:51.920 --> 00:27:52.880
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:59.039
And it's um so so yeah, so that's that's a genre I would love to have the opportunity to get into.
00:27:59.039 --> 00:27:59.839
That's awesome.
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:09.519
So outside of voice acting in your business um and your and your music, is there something else that you're that you're really into and really passionate about?
00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:15.839
Um, you know, um very passionate about my faith.
00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:31.039
Um that's something that I've had since I was a kid, and I kind of grew up with that, and it's gone through different iterations over the years, and you grow and you learn, and you don't have faith, and you have it again, and all that stuff.
00:28:31.039 --> 00:28:43.039
So, but I think that that's just kind of something that like my life, if I didn't, I feel like if I didn't have my faith, it's I I really wouldn't have anything, you know.
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.319
So that's kind of I I feel very strongly about that.
00:28:46.319 --> 00:29:02.000
Um and um no, and then just you know, obviously my family, just kind of making sure my girls grow up with a good solid core, you know, and uh bringing two teenage girls up isn't the most easiest thing in the world.
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:10.079
But it's but it's you know, it's uh but yeah, so just you know, that my family obviously as well.
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:16.960
So so as a as a second to that question, then so what is bringing you joy right now?
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:44.960
Um, I think with as you get older, you know, you you realize more about life and you have different experiences, um not all good, and you I think it makes you appreciate kind of life as a whole.
00:29:44.960 --> 00:30:20.240
I mean it does for me more, and I think perspective is huge for anybody, and I've gotten a lot of perspective on life over the years, and when I when I and and and sometimes it hits me out of the blue, but I think when I come into the booth every day and I'm able to actually finally, since I was 10 years old, do something for a living that I love, like I would not want to do anything else.
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:34.880
And then I think about my life as a whole, like, you know, and my family, and we have our health, and we have, you know, and yeah, that doesn't mean bad things, you know, haven't happened over the years and things like that, and you don't lose people and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:41.599
But I think it brings me joy just to kind of feel like I'm in the space that I'm in.
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:52.480
I'm taking care of my family, I'm working hard, uh, and things are good as, you know, crappy as sometimes they can get.
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.279
Ultimately, they're really, really good, you know.
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:58.880
So that brings me joy when I really think about that, you know.
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.559
All right, Mike, this is the second segment of the show.
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.680
This is where we dive a little bit deeper into your mental health journey.
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:10.160
Yep.
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:14.400
Uh, I believe that you know, depression wants to make us feel like we're alone.
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:23.599
And the more we can talk about it, the more we realize that everybody kind of goes through those down days, uh, the lighter that burden is and the easier it is to get out of that.
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:28.000
So, for you, how do you keep the darkness at bay?
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.359
So it's a pretty heavy question there, Rob.
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:52.480
Um Yeah, you know, I think it is again, I mean, I I know, you know, we talked about it, but keeping really relying on my faith is something that I do rely on.
00:31:52.480 --> 00:32:02.079
I mean, I, you know, pray sometimes and I say, okay, God, I'm gonna need you to take the ball today because I can't, you know.
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:10.000
Um and the thing is, he does always, you know, and I've I've relied on that over the years.
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:18.079
I mean, since I was a kid, I I remember, you know, just always, you know, kind of going to my faith.
00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:29.440
And and so I I think it's faith is one of those things for me, and and my belief in God and is is just something that keeps the darkness at bay for me.
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:39.519
Um and also I think realizing, you know, because it's very easy for you when you're having a bad day for whatever reason.
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:44.720
It doesn't have to be about work, it could be about just life, something's going on in your life.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.400
I mean, life gets, you know, life happens regardless of what we're doing, right?
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:48.880
Yeah.
00:32:48.880 --> 00:33:00.240
And so I think I think being able to accept when you're having a bad day, that it's okay to have that bad day.
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:06.480
I think being able to accept that can be a very positive thing.
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:14.559
And I'm not saying tell yourself that it's okay to be like this for the next week and a half, because I don't think that that's healthy.
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:24.559
But I think being able to tell yourself, okay, you're having a bad day, you're having these thoughts, you're whatever, second guessing yourself, your income isn't what you want it to be.
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.880
Um, whatever the case, somebody's sick in the family, like whatever.
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:42.160
I think that being able to go, okay, uh, I'm it's okay for me to have this bad day and and and be and and just kind of feel heavy and feel negative.
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:49.759
But I have to do things like when it when I go to bed and I close my eyes, it has to be done.
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:51.359
Has to be done.
00:33:51.359 --> 00:34:12.880
And I think allowing, because sometimes people I think, and I've done it to m with myself over the years, is that one bad day, it's it's like it it, you know, you just it it you're you're not giving yourself, you're not allowing yourself to have that, and you feel feel like it's your fault that you're having that bad day.
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:19.840
Oh, and look at me, and then you know, why am I, oh, it's because I'm weak and I don't have a lot of confidence and blah, and that just builds and builds and builds and builds.
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.639
And then that can extend for the next month, you know?
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:31.679
So I think just kind of telling yourself, like, it's okay to have a day like this, like it's okay to feel heavy.
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:33.840
Life is a heavy thing.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.840
I mean, the world is absolutely crazy right now.
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:41.440
I mean, it's there's so much going on.
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:55.119
And but uh, but again, I I just I rely on my faith and I say, okay, well, you know, I can't sit there and worry about everything all the time.
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.119
There's it's no way to live.
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:08.000
Like, you know, I kind of have to think about what's around me, think about my family, you know, you gotta you gotta force yourself to really try to think pa as positively as you can.
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.079
And I know that that's not always easy.
00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:19.840
So I think just kind of, you know, allowing yourself to know that it's okay to have a bad day is is kind of how I keep it at bay.
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:20.239
Yeah.
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:20.960
You know?
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.800
How I keep it at bay.
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:23.440
Yeah.
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.760
Sometimes there's times you have to just look at that darkness.
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:29.280
Sometimes you have to sit in it for a moment.
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.760
Not that you're gonna stay and wallow.
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.400
Yep.
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:40.400
Because then that day, if you wallow in it, that day becomes two days, becomes a week, becomes time that you can't get back.
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:41.119
Right.
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.719
But being able to say, okay, all right, I'm here.
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:52.880
And also, you know, when you are when you do have a strong faith to say, okay, God, I'm here in this.
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:54.880
I'm gonna need your help to get out of it.
00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:56.000
Absolutely.
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.320
I'm gonna need your your help to get me through this.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:06.559
You know, I I went through some real dark times last year when I lost my mother.
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.119
You know.
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:10.239
She was a single mother, you know.
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:11.039
Yeah.
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.400
And it was just, you know, her.
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.960
You know, I was I was the last family she had.
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:21.280
My brother passed away, you know, t like 20 years ago.
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.239
And uh so it was it was hard.
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:40.639
It was hard because I was, but you know, I I say all the time that that I, as much as I hated getting, you know, kicked out of a job that I had had for almost 10 years, and what am I gonna do?
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.599
That's when my wife was like, why don't you do what you love?
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.159
Go back into doing voice stuff.
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:54.960
And then if I had still been at that job, I could not have been there for her.
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:55.599
Yeah.
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:03.679
There's no way I would have had enough PTO to be able to take her to all of her doctor's appointments, to be able to do her grocery shopping and things like that.
00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:04.239
That's right.
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:12.400
So sometimes we don't see the see the blessing, see the light that was in those moments until we've come through them.
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:13.280
That's right.
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:21.360
So I think the moving forward through that is what is really important to not to don't stop, don't stay stuck.
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:22.000
Right.
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.199
Keep moving through it.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:24.320
And it's hard.
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:25.199
It's hard.
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:41.760
I mean, I I can relate very much with what you just said about if you were in your old job, you wouldn't have been able to do what your what you did for your mom and be with your mom and things like that.
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I I had a similar thing go on.
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My dad passed away a few years ago and he got sick and was gone within three months.
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I mean, it was really quick.
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But if I didn't have this job, if I wasn't in this space where I'm my own boss and I can do whatever, the amount of time that I was able to spend with him and do things for him and be there for, you know, his wife when the you know she needed me to be there, like all those things.
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And you sit there and you just again, doesn't always happen the way you think it's gonna happen, right?
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It's not always a perfect scenario, but if you can look back at the blessing that came out of that um through what you had to go through, you know, it's um again, perspective, it's a big deal.
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You know.
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Yeah, being able to, like I said, just just look back and appreciate.
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Yeah.
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Um and and then and then to appreciate, okay, well, here I am now.
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What am I what am I gonna do now?
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How am I gonna keep moving forward?
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You know, uh that's that's one thing that as I get older and I statistically I have more years behind me than I have ahead of me.
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:03.679
Yeah, right.
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:07.760
You know, that's a that's a big slap in the face to weird thing to think about.
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To to to us eternal Gen X creatures that are, you know, stuck at 35.
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You know, we were 35 when we were 12, and we're 35 when we're 50.
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That's right.
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It is a weird thing to consider that you know I have maybe 20 years ahead of me.
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Yeah.
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I know.
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And what what am I gonna do to keep going and and and and to really appreciate every day that I have?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, no, it's a it's it's the it's the the life kind of struggle, you know.
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:48.559
It's like everybody goes through it, everybody thinks about it, but there are certain times in life that you think a certain way because of your age.
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Yeah.
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We're we're you know, we're all gonna go sometime, you know.
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:59.119
And um it's just it's yeah, how do you live your life in the best way that you feel like you can?
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And and and I think it's also to serve other people.
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I think it's, you know, I think that's that's an important part that it's not just a me, me, me thing, you know, and it's easy to get caught up in that trap.
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I mean, obviously myself included, to get caught up in the me, me, me trap.
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But I think if you can, if you can, you know, serve other people and feel like you're doing something to serve other people, and that could be in the form of a variety of things, but but I think that that's helpful too, and that's I think that's fulfilling as well.
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:39.920
All right, mate.
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This is the third segment of the show, and it's time now for the fast buff, the fast buff.
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It's time now for the fast five.
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So I'm still working on the theme song.
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I love it.
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That's perfect, actually.
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I really, you know, I know people.
00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.440
I probably should get somebody to put a guitar track down on something.
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I don't know.
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If I was only talking to a singer-songwriter, I don't know.
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I think it's actually pretty good, to be honest with you, the way it is.
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I kind of like it.
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It's very original.
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Fast five is powered by pod decks.
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It's an app created by my friend Travis Brown.
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.880
Uh, if you go to chewin' the fatbr.com/slash poddex, it'll take you to a link you can download it.
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.400
It's uh podcaster questions, but they're great icebreakers as well.
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But this is five questions, no wrong answers.
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First thing that comes to the top of your head.
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You ready, Mike?
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:30.239
I'm ready.
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All right, question number one.
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What is your greatest fear and how do you manage fear?
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Um, I think my greatest fear is being alone, like ending up alone in some way, shape, or form.
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.159
Um, and how do I combat that?
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Well, I think I think I just try not to think about it too much.
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Um, you know, I mean, I think, I think it's one of those things where, again, as you get older, you you think about those things.
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And I mean, I have a, you know, beautiful wife and two beautiful girls, and and uh by all accounts, I shouldn't be alone when I get older, but you you just you never know.
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But then one thought can lead to another thought that leads to another.
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:32.800
So I just I I have a very creative mind, and I should have been a script writer, uh, but I um, you know, it it's one of those things where I just kind of have to go, okay, let's be present.
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Let's just stay present.
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So I think staying present for me is a big, big thing.
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I love that.
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:38.320
Yeah.
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Question number two.
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Which do you think is prettier?
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A sunrise or a sunset?
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I like I think the sunset.
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There's something, there's something about kind of the the settling of the day.
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That's all I can, that's the only kind of words I can use for that.
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:11.599
Like it's just it's the day is just kind of it's not done, but it's just like, I don't know.
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:16.000
It just I think it's just it's uh obviously an individual thing, but I I I don't know.
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.360
I like the the sunset.
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.679
I mean the sun, yeah, sunset, yes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No no wrong answers.
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Yeah.
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So yeah.
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All right, question number three.
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What is the best compliment you ever received?
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Oh my.
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Um I don't know.
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I think when I think when people just I've had a couple of people over the years, they'll just say, you know, you're like one of the best humans I know.
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And I just I think that's so endearing.
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Like, and and I don't know, I think that that's just a really good conversation.
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Compliment because I think we all want to be good humans, like right?
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At the end of the day, I don't care about, you know, I mean, the career, of course, I care about it now, but like when I'm on my deathbed, am I gonna, you know, I don't know.
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I think being a good human might be worth something.
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So I think that that's probably the best compliment I've ever gotten.
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:22.800
That is a great compliment.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I and I would I would echo that.
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You are a great human.
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Thanks, man.
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.639
Question number four.
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If you could go on an adventure tomorrow, what adventure would you choose?
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Oh And whatever your definition of adventure is, you know.
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:42.480
Yeah.
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:51.840
Well, you know, so when you say adventure, I kind of feel like for me, and because of my family dynamic, that it's like a vacation, right?
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:55.039
So like a vacation maybe that's somewhere we haven't gone before.
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:08.639
Um, I would love, I mean, this has just been a dream of mine for so long, and we talk about it with our kids, and like I'm Italian, so I would love to go to Italy, and I think that that's uh that's kind of a like a bucket list thing.
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.800
So to me, that would be an adventure.
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I think a like a two-week trip to Italy and just meet family that I've never met before and just kind of been there, I think would be freaking great.
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:21.280
That's awesome.
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:22.960
That'd be a great adventure.
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:23.840
Yeah, exactly.
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:30.320
Talking to Joe Cipriano not too long ago, and he just got his dual citizenship for for Italy.
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:31.440
Oh, did he really?
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.000
I know somebody else that's doing that actually as well.
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:41.840
And um yeah, that would be oh my god, that's that would be great.
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.039
That's really cool.
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:43.280
Yeah.
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All right, question number five.
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Who has been your biggest mentor or teacher this year so far?
00:45:53.599 --> 00:45:56.800
Uh we're we're only a couple months into the first this year.
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Okay.
00:45:56.960 --> 00:46:01.920
This year, what's what who's been that lesson giver to you that you've learned?
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:05.599
My my agent, Roger Becker.
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:14.559
Roger is, you know, for people that know Roger, I think, you know, they'll know what I'm talking about.
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:32.239
But Roger, you know, has been, you know, when you're when you're with an agent, um a lot of times you don't have that really hands-on type of experience, just because, you know, rosters are big and things like that.
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:40.719
But I will say, because, you know, I'm still kind of building my business and I'm not where I want to be, and I have so many goals and blah, blah, blah.
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:55.440
Roger is just one of those people that um I can go to as my agent when I'm talking about my career and things like that, that is just a great guiding light for me.
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.920
And he's very uh, he's not gonna throw any crap at you.
00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:02.320
He's not gonna try to inflate you at all.
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.360
He's just gonna tell you how it is, which I appreciate.
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:11.599
So I think that, you know, I'd have to say, for a little while now, I think Roger's been a big mentor for me.
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:15.599
Um, you know, which I just appreciate so much.
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:16.480
That's awesome.
00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:17.280
That's awesome.
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:17.679
Yeah.
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:21.360
Well, Mike, that that is our fast five, and that is the show.
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.840
Thank you so much for being here, my friend.
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:25.920
Oh, Robb, thank you for having me, man.
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:26.800
That was a nice talk.
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.480
Yeah, I really enjoyed the talk.
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:29.360
I appreciate it.
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.320
If folks want to keep up with you, what's the best way they could do that?
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:39.840
So um you can find me at my website, www.mikeprevitivo.com.
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.559
I am on TikTok, MikePreviti VO.
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:47.920
I'm on Instagram, MikePreviti VO, I think, and uh and LinkedIn as well.
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.840
So um yeah, those places is where you can find me.
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.239
Well, I will make sure that I put those links in the show notes.
00:47:56.239 --> 00:48:05.199
Uh, if there are any uh voice actors out there that are looking for some hand holding, um, Mike will be a great uh hand holder for you.
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:09.519
And uh Mike, I just wish you the best in everything that you've got going on.
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:13.199
I I love you, I love your heart, I love what you're doing, and uh thanks.
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.840
Uh again, thank you so much for being here.
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:17.280
Thank you so much, Robb.
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And if you would like to support this podcast, I'd appreciate it if you bought me a coffee at chewing the fatbr.com.
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But until next time, I look forward to the chance we have to sit a spell and chew the fat.
